trevor jones
Aug 5, 2003, 10:28
I speak,mechanic,and shite!!
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View Full Version : How many languages do you speak? trevor jones Aug 5, 2003, 10:28 I speak,mechanic,and shite!! Squalion Aug 5, 2003, 10:32 french and russian and english apparently Kormiic Aug 5, 2003, 10:53 Err, lovely. I'm not really fluent in any languages 'cept English... I know a little French, German and Greek though. Dazzla Aug 5, 2003, 10:56 Hmm. Well, good colloquial French (I learned most of my French from Provencale kitchen staff and have been banned from opening my mouth in Paris, ever); reasonable German and a little Dutch and Czech. hugo-a-gogo Aug 5, 2003, 10:57 i know a little german his name is hans salsa Aug 5, 2003, 11:14 English, but sometimes that is doubtful. I know how to say im horny in dutch :) hugo-a-gogo Aug 5, 2003, 11:15 learned that during your time 'in the windows' in the 'dam did you? :) skins Aug 5, 2003, 11:23 he he I can talk fluent English and non sense, a little french and a little german.:) wbps Aug 5, 2003, 11:31 BBC English has always served me well. Especially when dealing with the continentals and thier hot-blooded ways. hugo-a-gogo Aug 5, 2003, 11:33 quite right, why resort to the pig-latin babbling that passes for language to johnny foreigner jessika24 Aug 5, 2003, 11:40 English.. I'm starting to learn a lot of JIBBERISH lately from my 18 month old wbps Aug 5, 2003, 11:45 hugo-a-gogo spouted: quite right, why resort to the pig-latin babbling that passes for language to johnny foreigner :D If I could remember how to spell it, I could tell you that I love fucking in the kitchen, on the kitchen table in Dutch. Not the most useful phrase, but you won't find it in the Rough Guide. hugo-a-gogo Aug 5, 2003, 11:49 something about neuken in the keuken? Dazzla Aug 5, 2003, 12:03 Ich lekke nueken in de keuken. *Bows* Dazzla Aug 5, 2003, 12:04 Sorry, that's 'Ik' lekker nueken in de keuken *Apologises* hugo-a-gogo Aug 5, 2003, 12:07 mooi, maar ik spreek geen nederlands *scratches kop* Dazzla Aug 5, 2003, 12:12 Tsk. Kopstoot. *Slingerende belemmeringen* Jay See Aug 5, 2003, 12:49 Eu não falo nenhuma língua a não ser que inglês. Mas agradecimentos à maravilha de ferramentas de tradução do Internet como eu de Google posso afixar este e confundir a foda fora ao menos alguns povos. Eu espero apenas que eu esteja perdoado afixando em uma língua à excepção do inglês. Moderators pesarosos. Jay wbps Aug 5, 2003, 13:09 Dazzla spouted: Sorry, that's 'Ik' lekker nueken in de keuken *Apologises* Ik hoewven (?) neuken in de keuken, ob de keuken tafle. Possibly. *shrugs and goes to the red light district to eat a herring roll* Gentreau Aug 5, 2003, 14:41 Kormiic spouted: Err, lovely. I'm not really fluent in any languages 'cept English... I know a little French, German and Greek though. Shouldn't that be Geek ?? Marx Aug 5, 2003, 21:32 English, Irish, bits of french and more japanese. jessika24 Aug 5, 2003, 22:05 see you guys all look like you are just typing jibberish shit on the screen to me! salsa Aug 5, 2003, 22:39 hugo-a-gogo spouted: learned that during your time 'in the windows' in the 'dam did you? :) Nah, I failed my test, I needed to learn 'Are you horny' for that one :) blueeyes Aug 5, 2003, 23:56 English obviously since i'm American....that's bout it. I took french and spanish both in high school, but forgot most of it. Bungeegirl Aug 6, 2003, 18:51 So it looks as follows: Polish as a mother tongue (anybody else here speaks this one?). English good enough to communicate with English husband and to take part of the Dogbomb site. Fluent French and Russian. Some Spanish, will be better but my teacher is on holiday now. Able to do bits in German, Italian and Czech. Passive Latin knowledge. And that is all. Bungeeboy Aug 6, 2003, 19:03 Bungeegirl spouted: Polish as a mother tongue (anybody else here speaks this one?). moj polski jest nie bardzo dobry. Kocham cie moja kochanie zona. :) Gollywog Aug 8, 2003, 11:08 chupame la polla por favor GuinnessMeister Aug 8, 2003, 15:46 I can do: Italian (Conversational) German (Conversational) French (Basic) Spanish (Basic) English (Fluent) Pissed (Fluent) Minx Aug 8, 2003, 17:19 I used to be ok at French but once I stopped studying it I forgot a lot. I can still understand a good proportion, but my grammar isnt what it used to be... Did a years german. That was no fun at all. I blame the teacher, his brinylon shirts and aversion to personal hygiene. jonny_boy27 Aug 9, 2003, 21:09 i speak english as speks cumbrae, marra (west cumbrian) je parle le francais, c'est ma langue préféré y yo hablo un poco de espanol tambien fireboy Aug 9, 2003, 22:04 and you all seem to forget that everyone speaks what we can call European, a certain mentality seems to operate under the belief that language barriers can be broken through by SHOUTING LIKE A CUNT in english to someone who does not speak it. this i have seen many times, but strangely have nt been compelled to join in also. oh, i seem to recall a similar thread i started a while back, such is life. So that would be english - mother tongue, french - amy will only speak in it sometimes so i need to get back on form and conversational german, but i usually end up causing offence. mml Aug 26, 2003, 08:57 i speak english arabic russian danish swedish and basic french Barnacle Bill Aug 26, 2003, 11:33 mml spouted: i speak english arabic russian danish swedish and basic french and a bit of bollox to go with it thunderbird2 Aug 26, 2003, 18:37 I can speak English and Italian, I can survive in Japanese and know how to say "I bought a table" in German "I love you" and "I want you" in Danish/Norwegian oh and "Fuck off!" in Calabrese (though part of Italy they definitely do not speak Italian) Tallulah Aug 26, 2003, 20:53 I can speak English (ovbiously), a bit of German, and a little bit of Dutch (although I can't read a word of it). I know a few words of Italian, and I can say "thank you" in Norwiegan. I am also fluent in Bullshit. Sacha C Aug 26, 2003, 23:41 I can speak German fairly OK (hope to do an A-Level in it this September), and have been learning Czech for the past 2 yrs. It's really bloody hard, but at least can speak it at a basic level now...Rozumím česky docela dobře, ale musím si učit víc moc! Cool to see a good number of bilingual/multilingual Dogbombers here. Anyone here speak Japanese, out of interest? thunderbird2 Aug 27, 2003, 00:46 Sacha C spouted: . Anyone here speak Japanese, out of interest? wtatshi-wa nihongo-wo chiotto dekimasu bassoon Aug 27, 2003, 05:28 drei jahre Deutsch un en francais Ein Problem Garcon? (with a little squiggy under the c) Barnacle Bill Aug 27, 2003, 08:20 I can speak chinese wong kong chong fong, dong dong wong fong chong, sol an vinger mayt Sacha C Aug 27, 2003, 19:52 thunderbird2 rejoindered: wtatshi-wa nihongo-wo chiotto dekimasu So there is a Japanese speaker here! Good stuff. How easy/difficult is it to learn as a language? Is it true as well that Japanese has two or three different alphabets? Slackass Aug 28, 2003, 11:53 yeh i was forced to learn it at school for a year. i dint take much attention. well not enough to prove that you can say your name, where you live, and simple stuff like directions an station etc. but sacha c is saying his name.... i think. chiotto. not sure. but i recognise the wtatshi-wa nihongo-wo bit. By the way its very hard and i wouldn't recommend anyone learning it fluent. yeh 2different alphabets as well. maybe 3. i think 2 of there own and then they use the english alphabet to type the wtatshi-wa shite so we can read it. thunderbird2 Aug 28, 2003, 19:09 Sacha C spouted: So there is a Japanese speaker here! Good stuff. How easy/difficult is it to learn as a language? Is it true as well that Japanese has two or three different alphabets? It has three alaphabets (four if you count roma-ji - the Roman alphabet), one is symbolic (Kanji), one is phonetic and used only for Japanese words (hiragana), the last is also phonetic and used only for foreign words (katakana). So on a form my name would be written in katakana, while a Japanese filling out the form would use kanji and the nice extra space above it where they write the pronunciation in hiragana. As to how difficult it is to learn - compared to English it is radically different so that accounts for a lot of the headaches involved - the writing system makes up the rest. How different is it? a simple (cough! cough!) enough example are numbers and counting. In English "1" and "1 dog" uses the same word "1". In Japanese numbers and things being counted are different - eg. ichi = one bin = bottle ippon = 1 bottle hito = person hitori = 1 person hon = book issatsu= 1 book Round things , flat things and thin things always use the same words (1 set for each category), for the rest it's pure memory. thunderbird2 Aug 28, 2003, 19:12 Slackass spouted: ...chiotto. not sure. but i recognise the wtatshi-wa nihongo-wo bit. it means "I can speak Japanese a bit" chiotto = a bit hugo-a-gogo Aug 28, 2003, 19:13 onibaba = old woman monster thunderbird2 Aug 28, 2003, 19:15 hugo-a-gogo spouted: onibaba = old woman monster cusobaba = fucking old bag :D Marx Aug 28, 2003, 23:16 Sacha C spouted: So there is a Japanese speaker here! Good stuff. How easy/difficult is it to learn as a language? Is it true as well that Japanese has two or three different alphabets? Watashi wa nihon-go o shimasu ;) It's not the best because I can't remember the verb for to speak so I just said I blank japanese language. There are two alphabets, hiragana and katakana. Katakana is for foreign words and hiragana for native. Every character is phoenetic. Every consanant has 5 forms each relating to the vowel sound following it. The alphabets are relatively easy to learn and the language is easy while you can remember it *ahem*. The other characters are Kanji. Each kanji represents a full word. Some are pictographical and depict what they represent. Many are made by altering other Kanji. The kanji for wood for example becomes the kanji for root with the addition of a small line to its base. It's a great language. Been doing it for a year and have an A-level in it in June next. It's better than my 5 years of french which proves the statistics true. Generally if you have trouble with european languages Japanese proves far easier but if your european languages are good you'll find it more difficult. That said my irish is fluent so if that's a european language in the same way french and german are it's not a very good point. Hope I cleared things up a little. WOO FIRST IRISH JAPANESE CLASS EVER AND IF WE DON'T DO WELL WE'LL BE THE LAST! Marx Aug 28, 2003, 23:18 Anyway, continueing the thread of recent posts... Filthy iteki gaijin ;) thunderbird2 Aug 28, 2003, 23:33 cusogigi = fucking dirty old git Marx Aug 29, 2003, 00:15 cusoiteki = shit bastard chin chin no hana = penis nose. (I use this regularly but you'd have to see the guy.) Marx Aug 29, 2003, 00:17 Damnit I seem to have forgotten the counter for sweater shaped objects that have yet to be ironed and were washed two days ago and so smell slightly damp but may be alright if they're worn for a little while... That bollocks that whole sentance. thunderbird2 Aug 29, 2003, 01:09 Marx spouted: Damnit I seem to have forgotten the counter for sweater shaped objects that have yet to be ironed and were washed two days ago and so smell slightly damp but may be alright if they're worn for a little while... That bollocks that whole sentance. not so far off the mark though :D Marx Aug 29, 2003, 04:42 Give irish a go, japanese is a fucking doddle in comparison ;) TheMadBaron Aug 29, 2003, 07:28 Bang kon nee puut pasaa Thai dai, mai? thunderbird2 Aug 29, 2003, 07:57 irish hey? an chu mhor thunderbird2 Aug 29, 2003, 09:19 Marx spouted: Generally if you have trouble with european languages Japanese proves far easier but if your european languages are good you'll find it more difficult. That said my irish is fluent so if that's a european language in the same way french and german are it's not a very good point. while I'm not debating that each person will find things easy or difficult differently, in a way actually knowing one language, makes it easier to learn a third, because most of the brain bending you need to do, got done with the second. I think that anyone who speaks English trying to learn a language like Japanese, as a second language, on finding that it doesn't have the concepts of *"a" and *"the" , will find that aspect hard. You on the other hand also know Gaelic which is another language which doesn't exactly have "a" and "the" , so you probably weren't stymied by the concept. And of course if you really want to get beyond conversational Japanese you have to learn kanji, something I haven't done yet myself but really should. *(actually it does, they're just stored in several apparently unrelated places) Anyway that's my 2 yen worth :-) Back to our scheduled programming: baka yaro! = dickhead! hugo-a-gogo Aug 29, 2003, 16:30 tis much easier to learn languages before the age of seven, if you start to learn after that, you will never reach the same level of fluency. all to do with your brain chemistry/architecture thunderbird2 Aug 29, 2003, 18:13 hugo-a-gogo spouted: tis much easier to learn languages before the age of seven, if you start to learn after that, you will never reach the same level of fluency. all to do with your brain chemistry/architecture this is a common misconception, research into learning languages has shown that, believe-it or not, middle aged students make the best learners. Children learn through trial and error, whereas middle-aged people have a command of their own language, and therefor understanding of what they are actually saying regardless of the words used, making it easier to transpose into a foreign language. I myself became fluent in Italian, to the point of working as a translator/interperter in my early twenties - having started to study Italian when I was 21. hugo-a-gogo Aug 29, 2003, 19:01 thats the point, adults try to transpose what they are saying in english (for example) into another language, when the grammar rules mean it must be said in a different way. young children have an inbuilt ability to work out 'the rules' and work out the correct grammar for a sentence they have never heard. thas what i read anyway recently. can't remember in what thunderbird2 Aug 29, 2003, 19:21 you're saying that adults are conditioned by the grammar of their mother tongue, while kids are a clean slate, sure that's a fair point - but children learn language pretty much like parrots, very intelligent ones I grant you, but they don't actually understand what they're saying, rather they associate a word or phrase to a situation and rely on the situation to give the word meaning. You can verify this yourself, by trying to make a list of words say a list of items of furniture, you might get 4 or 5 before you start flagging a bit, that's because you don't remember words like that, try the same list but of furniture in your bedroom/office whatever, and by giving a context you'll suddenly remember lots more words. Grammar conditions the way information is connected together, but meaning isn't necessarily dependent on grammar : he laid eggs all day Scientists at Edinburgh copied a sheep. perfect grammar both, odd feeling though. The more abstract an idea becomes, the harder it is to give a context: what does "the economy" mean? You know what it means, just as I do, but putting the idea, an abstract idea, into words is very difficult unless you have a good command of the words at your disposal. So That's really my point from before, the childlike part of your vocabulary is the concrete part, the adult part of your vocabulary is the abstract part, regardless of grammar. Anyway I don't want to bore you or others, nor totally trash your idea ;) Marx Aug 30, 2003, 00:06 thunderbird2 spouted: irish hey? an chu mhor The bug chu? I've never come across chu. I was hoping for ceann ;) which'd be head. Or y'know any kind of formative sentance but that was devastatingly disappointing. Sé sin mo chara thundirbird... cailín maith :) Dietah71 Aug 30, 2003, 01:16 American English (I feel the need to specify for those who would argue with simple "English"), most Southern, backwoods English--a sometimes charming, illustrative idiodialect-- and Homie. Though my Homie is hopelessly accented. thunderbird2 Aug 30, 2003, 05:15 I was hoping for "dog" there, but hey I never said I could speak gaelic :) |