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cerise
Aug 5, 2003, 12:11
I am cerise..I come in peace.
The first time I came here, it was in the "puppies forum".
I was looking for the man who knew kate moss at school in croydon south london.
I've found this man now.His name is kingboy.
I don't know if there are other people who met kate moss in riddlesdown here.
Kingboy told me he had a "hard-on" at the kate moss's birthday party.
But as I am french, I could not understand the expression.
Now I think it is something obscene. Am I right?
He told me, he may have a picture .IT would be funny!

we talked about french personnalities too.
in the "puppies" forum , for the moment, they only know:

Gérard depardieu (depardu with the english accent :) )
Isabelle adjani
Jean reno and
vanessa paradis.

bye bye

Gentreau
Aug 5, 2003, 12:39
Kate Moss went to Riddlesdown ?????

Merde!

I grew up very close to there, just a few years earlier.....

Bienvenue Cerise, reste un peu cette fois.

cerise
Aug 5, 2003, 13:14
yes kate went to riddlesborn.
She was born 16 january 1974, I think.

salut gentreau, tu parles française toi aussi?


A bientôt

cerise
Aug 5, 2003, 13:15
euh...
riddlesdown not riddlesborn.

scuse me!

Dazzla
Aug 5, 2003, 13:17
Il parle le francais comme un vache espagnole.

Et avec l'aide de dictionary.com

hugo-a-gogo
Aug 5, 2003, 13:19
oui, gentreau est un espece de vache :)

Gentreau
Aug 5, 2003, 13:28
Merci Hugo, comme toujours tu es tres gentil.

Cerise, si tu regardes mon profil tu comprendras.


Dazzla, dont you mean dictionaire.fr ??? :P

Dazzla
Aug 5, 2003, 13:33
Grrrr...:)

speedball
Aug 5, 2003, 13:55
cerise,salut et bienvenue.... quand le mec disait "hard on" ce qu'il voulait dire c'est qu'il bande,et t'as raison..ca peut etre interessant pour toi s'il a une photo!

Jay See
Aug 5, 2003, 14:02
Mettez en évidence une vieille citation, "parlez anglais ou mourez"

speedball
Aug 5, 2003, 14:04
bien dit!!

wbps
Aug 5, 2003, 14:49
Show offs.

I should have studied, but I was distracted by Madamoiselle Robinson's breasts. When you're a 16 year old boy, they made learning French verbs difficult. :)

Jay See
Aug 5, 2003, 14:52
verbs like;
suckle, nuzle, caress, fondle..........

Gentreau
Aug 5, 2003, 14:54
lecher, sauter, baiser, enculer ......

jessika24
Aug 5, 2003, 14:56
i should have studied better too.. i can speak some but to hell with writing it out.. It would look like jibberish if i tried to type it out.

oui!!!!! je parle français (something close to that guess i'll have to brush up on the french)

wbps
Aug 5, 2003, 14:58
Jay See spouted:
verbs like;
suckle, nuzle, caress, fondle..........

:) :)

Mmm... Borktastic.

Jay See
Aug 5, 2003, 15:00
ah,
French. The language of Borking

Gentreau
Aug 5, 2003, 15:04
No, that's another thread.

So it's the french who borked the chat link then......

tonystarks
Aug 5, 2003, 15:23
Really? the french have screwed up the chat?
Those ungreatful bastards!
After all we did for them!

Jay See
Aug 5, 2003, 15:26
I propose that due to the French borking our chat, we should rename french fries "hot chips"

Kormiic
Aug 5, 2003, 15:28
Je suis un pomme de terre.

That's all the French I remember. A handy phrase in all scenarios though.

hugo-a-gogo
Aug 5, 2003, 15:49
especially if you are jimmy somerville (you may remeber him from the smiths crisps adverts)

cerise
Aug 5, 2003, 16:45
oh there are little french here.!! gentreau and speedball

You all speak very good french:

kormicc:we say "UNE" pomme de terre.But that's very good!

Jessica: Je parle français spelling= correct A+

for wbps :I could be your new mrs Robinson , lol! :D
but I have not big breasts..

for speedball.: I was sure of the meaning! vilain kingboy!! :)
I think kingboy was talking about a photo of class.. not a picture of him having a hard-on... :/

jessika24
Aug 5, 2003, 17:13
wooooooo i got an A+. much better then i did when i was in high school. (note i even got the little accent-whatever it is right too)

ffa01
Aug 5, 2003, 17:21
WD jess;)

jessika24
Aug 5, 2003, 17:54
see i knew i took french class all those years ago for some reason! (besides the obvious reason that i wanted to graduate and it was a requirement to take a language course)

cerise
Aug 5, 2003, 20:27
you know english is the second language I learnt.
First, I learnt german

Ich spreche ein bisschen deutsch..
wer ist deutsch hier???

aber english is easier I think..


see you

cerise
Aug 5, 2003, 20:41
I don't know the picture I could upload...
my picture is not funny. :(

cerise
Aug 5, 2003, 20:55
ha ha!

excuse me but it's not me on the picture IT's kate moss..
I am a kind of" kate moss", but I have not her cheekbones.

how can I upload a picture, left like "south park" for jessica.

hey!
I 've just discovered where I could send and receive private messages!

Gentreau
Aug 5, 2003, 21:24
Ich spreche auch Deutsch, aber mehr den Wiener Dialekt.

That picture under your name is called your 'avatar' you can upload one in your user options (control panel)

fireboy
Aug 5, 2003, 21:31
i was under the impression that your profile picture needed to be of yourself, so unless you are kate moss is it ?? you are not the messiah, but a very naughy boy.

Gentreau
Aug 5, 2003, 21:38
Tis true FB, which is why I PM'd her and explained.

fireboy
Aug 5, 2003, 21:39
/me was hoping that she was actually Kate Moss.

cerise
Aug 5, 2003, 21:57
I deleted the picture of kate moss!lol!

I don't want to go in prison for that!!! please

Gentreau
Aug 5, 2003, 22:06
If you post a nice naked or topless one of yourself, I'll see what I can do to reduce the punishment.

jessika24
Aug 5, 2003, 22:11
but is she posts a naked or topless of herself then she wouldn't need anything to be reduced because it would be OF HER and not going against the rules! TRY another way to get your nakkie pics gentreau..LOL

cerise
Aug 5, 2003, 22:18
ha ha!!

you'r intelligent jessica! no way for the naked picture !

but the evil is made.."le mal est fait" in french..
and he still can punish me...
I am so afraid! :(

Gentreau
Aug 5, 2003, 22:21
Well, if you post a nice clear picture of yourself, I'll make sure you get off lightly. ;)

jessika24
Aug 5, 2003, 22:26
well she might not want to "GET OFF" lightly. I sometimes like it rough!

fireboy
Aug 5, 2003, 22:28
and look where that landed you, 8 months pregnant !!!!!

cerise
Aug 5, 2003, 22:36
whhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I'm tired

it's 00h35 in france..


by the way,
what are your nationalities?

fireboy
Aug 5, 2003, 22:57
englishhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Gentreau
Aug 5, 2003, 23:08
Franglais

jessika24
Aug 5, 2003, 23:26
did i say that my present conditon happend on one of those ROUGH nites? noooooo i did not. LOL

jessika24
Aug 5, 2003, 23:27
i'm from The United States, i'm part irish, german, american indian, and french. LOL sorry for double post but i did want to answer her question!

wbps
Aug 6, 2003, 09:10
Ecosse, habite dans Londres. :(

cerise spouted:

for wbps :I could be your new mrs Robinson , lol! :D
but I have not big breasts..


Oui! Merci bien!

It is the quality of the lady that matters. ;)

cerise
Aug 6, 2003, 12:34
wha jessica

you are a good "mixture" :)

did you know johnny depp has irish, german and cherokee blood.
And he's from usa like u.


you may be her cousin :?

Barnacle Bill
Aug 6, 2003, 12:50
jessika24 spouted:
i'm from The United States, i'm part irish, german, american indian, and french. LOL sorry for double post but i did want to answer her question!

Im part american Indian.

jessika24
Aug 6, 2003, 15:02
cerise spouted:
wha jessica

you are a good "mixture" :)

did you know johnny depp has irish, german and cherokee blood.
And he's from usa like u.


you may be her cousin :?

her cousin? i thought johnny depp was a man?

cerise
Aug 6, 2003, 18:50
yes johnny is a man !!

HE's a pirat in "les pirates des caraïbes".

jessika24
Aug 6, 2003, 20:23
yes, sorry about the correction. Gentreau set me in my place.

cerise
Aug 6, 2003, 20:25
I wanted to say ...if there's someone to translate:

you may are "une cousine éloignée" of johnny depp.

bassoon
Aug 6, 2003, 20:26
Je m'appelle Bassoon. Je ne sais pas. Mon petite amie es tres belle. Meine Name ist Bassoon. Ich habe keine idee. Mein Freundin ist sehr nett.
un peu, ein bischen
I live in wisconsin.

jessika24
Aug 6, 2003, 20:28
je m'appelle Jessica. i can count to 10 in french too. i can say some other stuff too but not sure how to spell it!

Gentreau
Aug 6, 2003, 20:32
cerise spouted:
I wanted to say ...if there's someone to translate:

you may are "une cousine éloignée" of johnny depp.

"You are a distant cousin of Johnny Depp."

cerise
Aug 6, 2003, 21:09
hey basson! are you OK?

What a funny language :)

he says that his girlfriend is beautiful :)

bassoon is a romantic ;)but
chut!

by the way what is the english word for "chut"?
you know when you tell to someone to shut up with the finger.

hugo-a-gogo
Aug 6, 2003, 21:10
which finger exactly?

cerise
Aug 6, 2003, 21:18
ha ha!!!!
no "chut" is a kind word.
:)

Gentreau
Aug 6, 2003, 21:19
cerise spouted:

by the way what is the english word for "chut"?
you know when you tell to someone to shut up with the finger.

Very difficult to translate, there is not one word.

It depends upon what you want to say exactly.

In Bassoons case you could just write STFU which means 'shut the fuck up' (ta geule).

Languages are tricky things aren't they?

cerise
Aug 6, 2003, 21:20
you say "chut" when you put your finger in front of the mouth ! you know

cerise
Aug 6, 2003, 21:25
in french we have a lot of insults

but your favorite insult in english is "FUCK"

bassoon
Aug 6, 2003, 21:31
Fuck on its own isn't really an insult. You have to spruce it up with some modifiers, like motherfucking cocksucker, or you worthless fuck. But be careful because it can also become a proposition, as in fuck me, or let's fuck.

hugo-a-gogo
Aug 6, 2003, 21:35
not an insult? that's just the sort of thing i'd expect from you, you fuck!

you fuckin fuck!

(think joe pesci)

bassoon
Aug 6, 2003, 21:45
What the fuck? Why yes I do on occasion. Are you saying you'd like to?

hugo-a-gogo
Aug 6, 2003, 21:47
thats that fucked now

cerise
Aug 6, 2003, 21:58
you see!

you always use this word lol:)

hugo-a-gogo
Aug 6, 2003, 22:03
do we fuck! we fucking never use the fucker!

Gentreau
Aug 6, 2003, 22:23
fucking well do, you fuckwit

hugo-a-gogo
Aug 6, 2003, 22:27
oh for fucks sake, i'l be fucked if i'm being fucked around like this

jessika24
Aug 6, 2003, 23:54
oh god.. if you want to hear more uses of the word fuck then do a search for an mp3 from "the bob and tom show" its great!

yeah the word fuck alone is kind of like saying DAMN or SHIT or OH MY GOD. its just kind of an expression of disgust or surprise... a modifier is definately needed to make it an insult. or just use the middle finger and it says it all (FUCK YOU)

bassoon
Aug 7, 2003, 01:22
Fucking thank you Jess.

jessika24
Aug 7, 2003, 01:35
you are so fucking welcome i'm glad to have been of some fucking service to all you fine mother fuckers! have a fan-fucking-tastic day!

Barnacle Bill
Aug 7, 2003, 08:18
fuck fuckidy fuck fuck fuck

Famous quote from Cartmen

Southpark the movie.

Also,

How would you. like to suck. my balls mr Garison

(Pbasonuk walks away in shame at his lack of wit)

wbps
Aug 7, 2003, 08:35
cerise spouted:
you say "chut" when you put your finger in front of the mouth ! you know

Probably "Shhh!" or "Shush!" Or "Mother Fucker! Will you fucking well shut the cunting ball sucking fuck up, you fucking fuck-fuck freak of arse-spelunking nature! And whilst you're at it, you can kneel and pray to the god that is my cock. Fucking gobble it down, because if it's the fucking only thing that will shut you up I do fucking not fucking care if you are J-Lo or not. Fucker."

Or something.

/wbps has shocked himself.

skins
Aug 7, 2003, 10:37
Fuckin Hell theres a lot of cunting swearing in this thread.

Hello Cerise, welcome you fucking newbie cunt.

/hangs head in shame at the filth i spouted.

Barnacle Bill
Aug 7, 2003, 11:15
you lot are a bunch of fucking foulmouth cunts if i ever did hear it. you should be fuckin ashamed of yourselves

suck butter from my anal passage, uncle fuckin slags.


doushbags

wbps
Aug 7, 2003, 11:24
pbasonuk spouted:

doushbags

That would be "Douchebag."

Silly sausage.

Barnacle Bill
Aug 7, 2003, 11:42
oops !

asked every wanker in this pisshole of an excuse for an office if they knew how to spell it too.

ok im getting carried away now.

Gentreau
Aug 7, 2003, 16:47
So Cerise, learnt anything?

cerise
Aug 7, 2003, 17:07
euh.. what?

I think I can't translate all these fucking words :)

I ve tried to translate "fuck you" with a translator..
and it's written "baisez-vous" :o

Gentreau
Aug 7, 2003, 18:10
Correct!

jessika24
Aug 7, 2003, 18:17
yeah well BAISEZ_VOUS to you too!

cerise
Aug 7, 2003, 18:45
"baisez vous" doesn"t mean anything!!
it means "make love to yourself" :)

no, no: the french expression is:

"va te faire foutre" or but it's very vulgar: "va te faire mettre"

jessika24
Aug 7, 2003, 19:58
i keep wanting to recall some word that started with a 'Z' that wasn't exactly vugar or anything but i loved saying it.. something like ZUT or zut-alore can't remember!

Lintuk
Aug 7, 2003, 20:07
ZUT ALORS!!!! OHHEOHHEOH!

Gentreau
Aug 7, 2003, 20:10
cerise spouted:
"baisez vous" doesn"t mean anything!!
it means "make love to yourself" :)


That is true, but fuck does mean the same as baiser in some contexts. For example "Je veux te baiser" translates as "I want to fuck you" and the simple addition of a question mark would make the original translation correct, as in "baisez-vous?"

Unfortunately fuck is probably the most flexible word in the english language.

cerise
Aug 7, 2003, 20:12
"oh zut alors" is very polite :)
you can say " oh fais chier" too !

there's an other expression that french like to translate like that: "I am in the shit"= "je suis dans la merde"
But I am not sure english people use the expression:
"I am in the shit" lol!

Gentreau
Aug 7, 2003, 20:18
Oh yes, you are now............

The other mixed up one is that the english say "you're pissing me off" while the french use shit "tu m'enmerdes"

PS Cerise
Dis moi, y-a-t'il de la place sur ton balcon?

Now that's personal ;)

cerise
Aug 7, 2003, 20:20
ok gentreau.

Mais si tu dis "baisez vous" à quelqu'un il va te rire au nez :)même si littéralement c'est cela que veut dire "fuck you".

Don't forget that when you say "vous" to someone it's for the politness.
so imagine that when you say "baisez vous" it's like you say "fuck you" to someone being polite the same time.

So the best would be to say "baises toi!"...but don't say that to a french, say "vas te faire foutre", right!

by the way:
what a funny class, here :D

Gentreau
Aug 7, 2003, 20:28
Yes, but imagine you walked into a dark room and heard grunting noises, clearly from two different people, and you wanted to know what they were doing, then you could ask them

"Baisez-vous?"

Et pourquoi tu me reponds pas, à propos le balcon?

cerise
Aug 7, 2003, 20:49
quoi le balcon je comprends pas?

Gentreau
Aug 7, 2003, 21:07
Gentreau spouted:
Oh yes, you are now............

The other mixed up one is that the english say "you're pissing me off" while the french use shit "tu m'enmerdes"

PS Cerise
Dis moi, y-a-t'il de la place sur ton balcon?

Now that's personal ;)

Je suis sur que tu comprends. Quand on regarde une fille en disant "Il-y-a de la place sur le balcon"

cerise
Aug 7, 2003, 21:46
ha ok c'est romeo et juliette

oui il y a tout plein de monde à mon balcon! :D

Gentreau
Aug 7, 2003, 21:53
Uh, non. Ca veut dire, que tu as des gros seins......

C'est peut-etre Vendéene

cerise
Aug 7, 2003, 21:58
what is this fucking "vendeenne" expression!!!!!

Gentreau
Aug 7, 2003, 22:09
Tu es parisienne?

En Vendee on parle un peut differament, pour confondre les non royalistes.

If you have big firm breasts, then that makes a kind of balcony. We say that there is plenty of space on the balcony if a girl has big tits.

cerise
Aug 7, 2003, 22:40
yes I live near versailles, so near paris.

ha ha!:)
but you asked me if there are people in my balcony!
so I did'nt understand!!
I thought abour something romantic like juliette on her balcony and all my romeo(s) on the balcony with.

you pervert!!!!!!

bassoon
Aug 7, 2003, 23:14
The internet would be a lonely place without perverts. (so would france) :)

daze
Aug 7, 2003, 23:40
cerise spouted:



by the way,
what are your nationalities?


Latvian/irish/scouser

cerise
Aug 8, 2003, 09:49
oh yes latvian.

In france there is a tragic event,at present

A french singer (bertrand cantat of"noir désir") killed a french actress (marie trintignant) in a hotel in vilnius, fighting with her.

Have you heard about that?

It happened in lithuania not in latvia.

speedball
Aug 8, 2003, 10:16
i really love the wealth of expression that the french language offers...the differing degrees of meaning for the simple phrase "fuck off" for instance:
va te faire foutre
va te faire mettre
va te faire baiser
va te faire enculer
va te faire niquer
va te faire sauter

each one is insulting to an exact degree,you gotta love the thoroughness!

cerise
Aug 8, 2003, 14:21
whaou!

more than 100 messages in my post.
I am proud :)

what is the record of the number of messages in this forum?

ffa01
Aug 8, 2003, 14:32
i seem to remember 5 or 6000 for a takeover poem...unsure...speak to minxy!

Gentreau
Aug 8, 2003, 14:35
In this forum, in the last year, 583 replies 3483 views.
You've got a long way to go cerise, and I think this thread has probably run its course.

Maybe it's time to reply to some others or start a new one on another subject ??

cerise
Aug 8, 2003, 14:41
oh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


6000 posts!!!
it's unbelievable!

:(( (cute this smilie)

cerise
Aug 8, 2003, 14:43
no not this one

:(
but this one

:.(

this one

:(( or :( ( (it doesnt work , why?)

cerise
Aug 8, 2003, 14:44
the "disppointed" smilie doesn't work for me

cerise
Aug 8, 2003, 20:45
anyway , I would not be able to make a better record

because tomorrow I go away for 2 weeks..vacation, holidays, you know

Gentreau
Aug 8, 2003, 20:56
Where are you going?

Will we ever see you again??

Bonnes vacances

cerise
Aug 8, 2003, 21:02
Je vais en antartique!

no I just go in NORMANDie to see the "mont saint michel"
then I go in the limousin.I stay in france :(

Yes I will come back I think.

hugo-a-gogo
Aug 8, 2003, 23:15
i went to normandie at easter, lovely, stayed in a old manor house thing, a manoir

cerise
Aug 8, 2003, 23:19
ouh a manoir with ghosts!!

I will say good bye tomorrow

now I am going to sleep

to "faire un gros dodo" = french expression

hugo-a-gogo
Aug 8, 2003, 23:20
to do a big dodo?

sound like baby talk for having a shit

cerise
Aug 8, 2003, 23:21
I really would like to go to england london for my next vacation!

with the train under the "manche"


bye bye I really want to sleep!

cerise
Aug 9, 2003, 08:24
it's time now

I have to go


au revoir et à une prochainnnne!!!!

Gentreau
Aug 11, 2003, 15:21
Sounds like she's going in for a major operation, not Normandy

Da PrOdIgAl SoN
Aug 13, 2003, 09:01
I also live bout 20 minute from ridlesdown and seen kate moss in croydon many moons ago she used to babysit my mate. hee hee

jessika24
Aug 13, 2003, 11:15
now if you got babysat by kate moss that would be something to brag about. why can't i meet any famous people? oh thats right, cuz i live in the land of the AMISH!

tonystarks
Aug 13, 2003, 12:28
Im fuckin lost here? Whats this post about again?

Gentreau
Aug 13, 2003, 12:52
French lessons Tony......and people who knew Kate Moss or grew up in South Croydon etc. etc. etc.

cerise
Aug 24, 2003, 20:20
I m back!!!!!!!!


great vacations :)

whaou! I ve just found a new kate moss's neighbour!!!
nice to meet you Da prodigal son!
so how was the young kate moss? have you a picture of her?
would like to see her photo of class.


ha ha gentreaun not a major operation. I ve seen the "mont saint michel" for the first time of my life.It was cool.
then I ve been to sarlat, then I went to cahors to see a ..don't know how to say...a cave you know...(but not a cave to drink some wine) .a cave with "stalagmites" and "stalagtites" .

hi tonystarks!
the first subject of this post is kate moss.
But you can talk about whatever you want and I give french lessons.

hi to jessica and all!
who are the amish exactly? the people who live in a different world?

Gentreau
Aug 25, 2003, 00:06
Welcome back.

What you saw was a cave in english, the other type is called a 'wine cellar'. I prefer the second one personally......

Mont St Michel is very nice, St Malo is beautiful too if you ever get the chance to go there.

Zelda
Aug 26, 2003, 08:04
I live kinda near Riddlesdown, in the loosest sense of the word. My french sucks. Ou est le centre villeis about as good as it gets. Not sure why i'm posting this.

GuinnessMeister
Aug 26, 2003, 08:13
My French is "Basic" - ie: I can order food in restaurants, ask directions, book hotel rooms. etc. It's a language that I don't really have any desire to learn further.

Zelda
Aug 26, 2003, 08:21
Also, "je fais un pipi" or something. Je mapelle Indika. Jais 20 ans. J'habite en Croydon. I tend to talk in german at french people. I get muddled up.

cerise
Aug 26, 2003, 12:27
"je fais pipi" means "to piss", "to urinate"..
I think the best word is "pee". "I do pee", or "I have a pee" ?!
I don't know how to say...

I dream, or you all live in croydon?
so you all met kate moss once in your life, lol!

hey, guiness, I would be happy to hear your french!;)
I think that french is a beautiful language, but I have to admit that it's sometimes complicated "hard".. for the spelling, , the grammar...
Why not make simple?
for example..we say "vous faîtes" and not "vous faisez"...Why such a thing? we say "vous plaisez" or " taisez-vous"... but for the verb faire "to make" we say "vous faîtes".


you know, even french people don't know their language..
for example: the subjunctive, they don't know how to use it or to write it.

I think the celebrity Jodie foster is the american girl who speak the best french.
This woman speak better french than a person with the french nationality.;D
And she hasn't the american accent speaking french.

GuinnessMeister
Aug 26, 2003, 16:29
Sorry - I'm a bit tied up learning Italian at the moment. If you think that French is complicated, you want to see Italian.

wbps
Aug 26, 2003, 16:43
GuinnessMeister spouted:
Sorry - I'm a bit tied up learning Italian at the moment. If you think that French is complicated, you want to see Italian.

It's amazing how far "Ciao" and "Comme sta?" can get you.

GuinnessMeister
Aug 26, 2003, 17:26
Yes - so you've managed to say "Hi! How are you?".

Put that alongside "Vorrei una birra, per favore." and you've got it cracked.

wbps
Aug 26, 2003, 17:30
GuinnessMeister spouted:

Put that alongside "Vorrei una birra, per favore." and you've got it cracked.

I'm guessing that translates as "I say, you are the saucy one! Let me pour you a fifteenth glass of grappa, and we'll go back to my penthouse suite and discuss philosophy untill sunrise, my dear."

Am I right? Am I?

cerise
Aug 26, 2003, 17:33
I never learnt italian but it's so close to the french,that I can guess what "vorrei una birra per favor" mean:

"une bière s'il vous plaît"

c'est ça, c'est ça?????? ;)

hugo-a-gogo
Aug 26, 2003, 17:43
mais oui, mon petit choux

come on , cerise, get out and about and post in some other threads!!!!! you can't stay locked in this one all the time!