I dont know about you lot but I feel there is a distinct lack of quality games for the little gem known as the game cube.
There is no doubt in my mind that the graphic engine is far more impressive than that of the PS2... and Im a die hard fan of sony!

But not to worry!
Theres some really good lookin stuff on the way!
Soul calibur 2 has a confirmed release date of 28/08/03 in which the extra character will be bloody link from zelda!

Rogue squadron 3 is due in october in which you get to ride the speed bikes, walkers and a host of other great weapons!

Final fantasy is makeing a long due apperance in the form of Chrystal chronicals

Spawn is also due for release and looks a whole lot better than the 1st gash effort on the PSone

And for the diehard nintendo fans the new mario golf game is on the way...

So chins up! The little bastard box is gonna get funky again!

Sorry buddy but I think that the little box will fade in to history like the dreamcast.
People will opt for a Xbox or the PS2.
You know it will happen :)

skins is right....again!

sorry tony:(

But you 2 seem to forget the fact that Sonys Profits are down (something like 98% last quarter and has been trending downwards for a wee while now) and microsoft have not made any money out of their boxes either. Sure Nintendo has stopped production for now to clear the backlog of Gamecubes for now but they have made a profit on each unit they have sold. Remember that they own the handheld market and are certain to have something planned for E3 in the way of hardware as well. Oh and the company warchest is conservatively estimated at around $6billion US as well.

Cant understand why someone would buy a PS2 when even the simple games are graphically inferior and as for gameplay on most of the Playstation games I have ever played it is poor if not non existent. Games are too easy to finish.

XBox. I would consider buying one but will wait for the inevitable pre xmas price drop and bundle deal too come along. The games I've played on the system weren't exactly mindblowing either.

Dont write them off yet...

Im with you on the graphics front sirk (with the few exceptions e.g. silent hill3, MGS2, Final Fantasy X, etc...)
But game play wise I dont think you can beat the PS2 for variaty. Im never bored becasue there is something for everyone. And if sometings to easy... try them on hard. They are usually extremelly hard!
I know sonys loosing out at the moment profits wise... but thats because the software is at such a competitve price there not making sod all profit.
Theres a great selection on the way for the PS2 aswell as the gamecube you know?

Hmm I dunno cos in every comp shop i go in the displays are mostly Xbox and PS2 have the larger displays.
The poor old cube gets put to the back were it is hardly seen.

If nintendo wanted it to do well they should have thought about the release date and time better. Instead it was kinda of quite and amongst all the PS2 and Xbox hype it kinda got left behind.
The only thinng keeping the cube in is the Resident Evil series.

:)

Resident Evil 4 is gonna blow us away, I hope. Shame the cunts aren't releasing remakes of 2/3.

If they stopped making crappy cutesy games, they'd have a chance.

Xbox..lol...still has about 2 decent titles to it's name..it's gonna flop.

yeah... and one of them is dead to rights... and guess what I just bought for the cube??? dead to rights. Very good. go get a copy

It is a good game I played it on me xbox, I still think that u should get a xbox starky...

There's been fuck all on any console that's worth really screaming about since Silent Hill 3. My PS2 and GameCube haven't been switched on in months.

It's about time Resident Evil Online was released I think.

Halted production on "cubes" for a while. Rubics still outselling dem.

Just wanted to ad my 2p...

The Gamecube had me hooked (I'm a big Nintendo fan), with Res Evil, Zelda, Metroid, Animal Crossing, Super Monkey Ball, Marios Sunshine... I was more than content.

I agree that the future line up looks a little bleak, but remember - there's a sequel to Metroid, a sequel to Zelda and of course Mario Kart - Double Dash coming out over the next year or so, so it's not that bad!

Lets face it - how many (platform specific) decent games does the Xbox have? 1...? 2...(maybe)? And it's biggest dedicated title - Halo - will be out for the PC soon.

I won't hear a word against the PS2 though - I recently picked one up for £80 and so far have immensely enjoyed playing Ico (possibley the finest game I've ever played), Rez & MGS2....

One final note - the Gamecube is currently outselling the PS2 in Japan. The weekly sales figures were:

GameCube - 35,600
Playstation 2 - 35,300
Microsoft Xbox - 650

Hooray!

Take this as a given; every console that has ever been released has went through a games lull halfway through it's life, from the NES to the GameCube, via the Playstation. The N64 was definately the hardest hit in 1999 by this, but it bounced back before the end of it's life, so don't get worried about it.

the x-box is a pile of shit, i wish i had got a ps2 or game cube on reflection :( though have gone horribly off topic now!

2k. spouted:
the x-box is a pile of shit, i wish i had got a ps2 or game cube on reflection :( though have gone horribly off topic now!

and what fuckin games have u been playing? The x-box is by FAR the best of the 3 big consoles. With games like Halo, Splinter Cell, Quantum Redshift, Ghost Recon, Metal Gear Solid Substance. Superior speed, superior graphics, a better controller and a big fuck off hard drive to boot!!
Im sorry, but the only reason to own a ps2 is grand theft auto 3 and vice city - and with both of them titles due out on x-box next year for the price of one game - that one reason doesn't exist anymore.

I like driving games really and wasn't thinking right when i opted for an xbox.... i need gran turismo!

maybe ps3 next time

Viewtaful Joe! Its fuckin ace fellas! If you dont have a GC go and get one just for that!

Just read this on gamespy:
GameCube Sales Climb - Prophet
Nintendo of America, announced that the GameCube has quadrupled its sales rate since its price cut to $99.99 a mere 35 days ago, based on data gathered from the country's largest retail chains (NPD TRSTs, September 2003). Nintendo also said that it has garnered 18 points of market share from its two competitors in little over a month, thanks to the price reduction. NOA's George Harrison also said that the $80 price difference between the GameCube and its competitors coupled with the pending release of Mario Kart: Double Dash, Mario Party 5 and the new 1080 Snowbaording game will make for a very lucrative holiday shopping season.

Mario Kart double dash!

We have a copy and we like it! Its not the hardest game in the world but its great fun none the less. If your going to get alot of life out of it get some friends first to play the multiplayer battles and races to get full feel for the little bugger. Go get and enjoy!

tonystarks spouted:
Viewtaful Joe! Its fuckin ace fellas! If you dont have a GC go and get one just for that!

I played the demo in Toys'r'Us. Very fucking weird, but highly entertaining. Might get my little brother one for christmas, as the GmaeCube is his. is it possible to turn off the voice that syas "go for it" as that really was pissing me off.

I think the Cube is done for.. I may be cheaper than the rest, but it lack the flexiblity of the other 2. The whole DVD player thing.
Plus a lot of people got burnt by the N64, I had one for a while just after Goldeneye (great game) was released. The rest was just shite, even the WWF games on the N64 took a kicking from the PS one versions.
Sony basically said anything you can do we can do better.

My Gf is buying me an X-box for crimbo with project gotham racing 2. Looks good, plus the bonus is that I live in Edinburgh which is one of the cities featured in the game.

I think the cube will be just fine mate. Its got some fucking great potential at the moment. Some bloody good stuff on the way.

rammsteinrainbo spouted:


I played the demo in Toys'r'Us. Very fucking weird, but highly entertaining. Might get my little brother one for christmas, as the GmaeCube is his. is it possible to turn off the voice that syas "go for it" as that really was pissing me off.

My flatmate went to see a friend over a weekend and bought a GameCube just for Double Dash. Got to say that it is one of the best games I have played on the Cube, but I'm waiting on him getting some extra controllers. I know what the flat was like on my 64 with MK64, so 4 player Double Dash will kick ass.

unordinarychild spouted:


and what fuckin games have u been playing? The x-box is by FAR the best of the 3 big consoles. With games like Halo,

overated, bad gfx engine, bad controller, out on PC anyway


Splinter Cell


MGS / MGS2 > splinter cell


Quantum Redshift, Ghost Recon,


Not heard of QR but if ghost recon is a CS clone then...CS is better on pc :P


Metal Gear Solid Substance.


MGS1,2 and Snake Eater out on ps2. and Twin Snakes on GC next year.


Superior speed, superior graphics,


Technically yes, realistically no, many games don't have good enough engines to run smoothly. A good PS2 games looks and runs better than an average xbox one.


a better controller


It's the worst one ever. Huge with stupidly-positioned buttons and ache-inducing shoulder buttons.


and a big fuck off hard drive to boot!!


but with no OS lol..everyone here has a PC anyway. Fair enough it can run emulators etc, but only when chipped.


Im sorry, but the only reason to own a ps2 is grand theft auto 3 and vice city - and with both of them titles due out on x-box next year for the price of one game - that one reason doesn't exist anymore.

er. and FFX, FFXI, FFXII, DMC1+2, GT3+4, etc etc

xbox's titles are 90% unoriginal rushed trash

Im sorry Squalion, I think that is rubbish and you have an obvious hatred for the x-box because it is a Microsoft product. I am not a fan of Microsoft, but the x-box is one of the few things they have got right.

The original controller that came out was pretty bad, but they quickly released a smaller more comfortable one that feels very natural.

I have to question whether or not you have actually played on an x-box. Seriously.

No offence intended.

unordinarychild spouted:
Im sorry Squalion, I think that is rubbish and you have an obvious hatred for the x-box because it is a Microsoft product. I am not a fan of Microsoft, but the x-box is one of the few things they have got right.

Nope, I hate it because it's badly designed and has a bollocks lineup of games. The games are pretty much the only thing I consider in a console, which is why I still use my PS1 more than PS2.

btw I love microsoft products in general, I don't like linux/mozilla fanboys and always use Windows and IE :P


I have to question whether or not you have actually played on an x-box. Seriously.

No offence intended.

None taken, and yeah I have access to one at my sister's house, rushed round there to play Halo...was fun for two hours then I thought 'whats the big deal? This aint as good as Half life, CS or even Duke Nukem 64 and the controller means it's hard to aim at enemies properly..plus the 2 guns at a time thing, childish enemies and arsing around you have to do.' Name one game on xbox and i'll name you a better one of the same type on PS2/PC/GC.

Oh and they don't have FF or Resi, two of the biggest game licenses ever, not to mention MGS, Gran Turismo (that project gotham racing looks bland and shite..especially for the capability of the xbox..another rushed and crappy copy of another game)


My nephews get a coupla pirate xbox games a month, and I play each one usually. At least 80% are unoriginal, boring, seen-it-all-before games rehashed in xbox graphics, usually with dodgy game engines too, and loads sequels and ports.

I just think of smooth, enveloping, polished games like MGS2, Final Fantasy and Devil May Cry and think 'why did MS bother'.

Ok, I see your point but disagree.

I'd just like to add 3 simple words:

Half Life 2

machosker spouted:
I think the Cube is done for.. I may be cheaper than the rest, but it lack the flexiblity of the other 2. The whole DVD player thing.


True but it's a games console not a DVD player, if you want a DVD player then you can spend the 40 quid difference between the GC and the XBox/PS2 on a standalone unit which will, lets face it give you the equivalent quality as you get on the console built in ones.
The GC is top of my Jan Sales wishlist alongside a decent standalone DVD player, I can't understand why people want to have everything in one box rather than having seperate boxes that do the job better on their own. I guess it's the same as the old midi system/hi-fi seperates argument. So that means the gamecube is for those of us who have a seperate amp adn CD deck and the PS2 and Xbox are for the people who like a big black box that does everything.

As for games, it has;
NFS, FIFA, Resi Evil, Veiwtful Joe, Wipeout, FZero,Super monkey ball, Final Fantasy,Sonic, Mario & Zelda.
When I was a kid, I dreamed of a console that had Sonic AND Mario, the gamecube is my personal dream come true.

I could never buy anyting that uses a italian plumber as its selling point.

The Game is dying this unfortunate but true aparently Nintindo have wharehouses full of them they can't sell em.

Personaly I think the ps2 look have it has a nice array of games.

I'm fed with the pc its game market is dying if you ask me.

GrumpyBoy spouted:
The Game is dying this unfortunate but true aparently Nintindo have wharehouses full of them they can't sell em.


Yeah, that was the case but they started manufacturing them again early december, lowering the price sold them tonnes more units. Yes, it will probably always be the underdog but I think it's gonna last, I can't see Nintendo making the same mistakes sega made, it would be a shame if they did cos there'd be no veterans left in the market.

Nintendo rule. The games may take a while, but when they're released, works of art.

rammsteinrainbo spouted:
Nintendo rule. The games may take a while, but when they're released, works of art.

I don't see how driving around in a silly cart is a work of art.

the cube is a forgotten console go and get an xbox.

I was talking about The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, should have specified.

I'd have a cube if they were 49.99, and games were a tenner. I like the 'Nintendo feel' of some of the games, but it's hardly going to be anybody's first choice of console

It's taken a while, but the Xbox is taking off like...woahh..in terms of software.

I've got Xbox and PS2. I haven't bought a PS2 game in over 6 months.
The only game I ever play PS2 is GT3 (which pisses on all Xbox racing games - although I haven't played ProjectGothamRacing2 yet).

So, I've got the choice, and I play Xbox 95% of the time.

PGR 2 is tops for racing. But you can now buy GTA 3 and vice city as a double pack for the xbox. The graphics have been smoothed out and is now a top one to get for the xbox. :D

I am still wondering what to buy next?? Any Hints dogbombers??

Pokemink spouted:
I like the 'Nintendo feel' of some of the games, but it's hardly going to be anybody's first choice of console


Actually, it was mine. Just bought my cube and I love it. My current game collection:

Legend of zelda 1,2,Ocarina of time and Majora's mask
Sonic 1,2,3,& knuckles,3d,Spinbal and mean bean machine,
FIFA 2003,
Metroid Prime,
Viewtiful Joe,
Final Fantasy:Crystal Chronicles
Mario Kart Double Dash!!
XIII,
Resident evil

The games look great, the controller feels good, the machine itself(I got the black one) looks good and it has Sonic and Mario on the same console. I'm in my element. Zelda in particular is taking over my life!!
It might be the worst console for marketing and third party support but what's there is good and I go for wuality over quantity any day.

In short:

Dominoid
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His gamecube!!

For me the point of a console is to play in front of the TV witha few mates after the pub etc. So I have to say out of the 3 major consoles I prefer Gamecube purely because of multiplayer games like Super Monkey Ball 2 and Double Dash.

If I want to play a game with stunning graphics and deep gameplay, my computer blows every console out the water very easily (and its 12 months old, hardly cutting edge stuff). So arguing about a console's graphics etc is completly pointless IMHO.

project gotham racing wont be top for long. GT4 is coming and looks pretty good.

http://www.members.aol.com/gaz74205/dogbomb/jedichef/gt4.jpg

Hmm maybe... point of impact 3 looks like being the one next.

I fell some sort of allegience to Nintendo. Got a GameBoy when I was about 10 fell in love.

Cant help thinking that the Xbox controller is just a rip off of a nintendo controller anyway. Very similar layout.

they are a bit simaler, there were a few PC controllers that l;ooked that way too. The GC controller is a bit more aerodynamic though I found the original Xbox controller a bit chunky. Didn't they make a new one though?

Thank God Microsoft have yet to even dent the Japanese market. At present I believe Nintendo rule supreme as far as consoles are concerned in the East. XBox however is America's No. 1. As I see it the dinky little Gamecube is the most pure of the consoles available at present and certainly would be my first choice were I not a die hard Final Fantasy fan. I have no interest in the XBox what so ever to be frank. A combination of a deep distrust for Microsoft and the blatant fact that an XBox can do nothing a PC can't do where a PC can do it better means I won't be touching it will a six foot barge pole. I acknowledge that an XBox is far cheaper than a good spec PC and that it allows for easier use and blah multiplayer and such. But... just no.

I will keep both my fingers crossed for the next few years and hope Ninento aren't bullied out of a market already lacking good competitive variety.

stoke_fields spouted:
As I see it the dinky little Gamecube is the most pure of the consoles available at present and certainly would be my first choice were I not a die hard Final Fantasy fan.

[sobs uncontrollably] Oh final fantasy, how I miss you. Crystal Chronicles is no use at all, I want squall and cloud and CId and Xu and tifa and...

stoke_fields spouted:
As I see it the dinky little Gamecube is the most pure of the consoles available at present and certainly would be my first choice were I not a die hard Final Fantasy fan.

[sobs uncontrollably] Oh final fantasy, how I miss you. Crystal Chronicles is no use at all, I want squall and cloud and CId and Xu and tifa and...

theres a PC version of ff vii i could point you to if your interested?

I know it's out there, I have FFVIII on th Pc. Problem is, I don;t have a PC yet. I'll probably end up buying a second hand PS2 for the sake of about five games.

you dont have a PC?? then how do you post here? :P

It's not my PC, it belongs to work. I have nothing better to do between calls than surf so I can nidulge ni my Dogbomb ramblings and get paid for it!!

dominoid spouted:
It's not my PC, it belongs to work. I have nothing better to do between calls than surf so I can nidulge ni my Dogbomb ramblings and get paid for it!!

Hold everything, my friend. Why for your next Final Fantasy fix all you need is a trusty DVD player. Observe:

http://www.adventchildren.net/

Enjoy!

Well that certainly is cool but it isn't the same

Anybody got a release date for Resident evil 4? Supposed to be anyday soon no?

it was revealed at E3 but the best I can find ni the way of a release date is the first quarter of next year :-( Long wait, but probably worth it.

Just wanted to ad my 2p...

The Gamecube had me hooked (I'm a big Nintendo fan), with Res Evil, Zelda, Metroid, Animal Crossing, Super Monkey Ball, Marios Sunshine... I was more than content.


Tis a fantastic game! I've just about paid off all my debt to Nook for the top floor.

Apparently they are releasing AC officially to the UK on September 24th.