What do you dogbombers think of smoking weed?

I personally think it's a good way to chill, and i like to smoke one when i'm sitting in front of my pc..

Only downside is the fact it's bad for your lungs...

What do you think, and who does it??

Amygdela

I can think of things I would rather be doing than smoking weed.

Generally anything that is more productive for a start.

sirk spouted:
I can think of things I would rather be doing than smoking weed.

Generally anything that is more productive for a start.

what an odd thing to say.... smoking weed in front of a PC is changing the mood..

you still do things on the PC...

I assume that you don't drink anything with caffeine in it, no alcohol, don't smoke ciggies, don't drink tea, don't much like spices on your food....?

cmontgom spouted:


what an odd thing to say.... smoking weed in front of a PC is changing the mood..

you still do things on the PC...

I assume that you don't drink anything with caffeine in it, no alcohol, don't smoke ciggies, don't drink tea, don't much like spices on your food....?

I believe the original question was what are your thoughts on smoking weed,[B] not what do you do in front of your pc[\B].

Well I don't drink coffee or tea but caffeine energy drinks not a problem. Dont smoke ciggies check on that, but thats because I don't like the smell or taste of them. I will eat anything once and tend towards trying different foods from around the world whenever I can. Love Thai food, real chinese food (as opposed to the rather bland chow meins and fried rice and food court fare).

I personally can think things I would rather do than get stoned and feel bored, tired and hungry.

Fookin hell the debate section started up a few days ago and someone only just mentioned weed today.

Wonders will never cease.

Yeah weeds okay.If your a musician it's even better.

There are pyschological effects though that i still think are being slightly underestimated.Negative ones i should add.
For the vast majority though pot is safer than Alcohol by a long shot,it's just the tobacco thats the problem.

sirk spouted:


I believe the original question was what are your thoughts on smoking weed,[B] not what do you do in front of your pc[\B].

Well I don't drink coffee or tea but caffeine energy drinks not a problem. Dont smoke ciggies check on that, but thats because I don't like the smell or taste of them. I will eat anything once and tend towards trying different foods from around the world whenever I can. Love Thai food, real chinese food (as opposed to the rather bland chow meins and fried rice and food court fare).

I personally can think things I would rather do than get stoned and feel bored, tired and hungry.

nice coding with the bold tags.. maybe you should try getting stoned? Some people don't get bored, tired and hungry when they get stoned.. I barely touch the stuff but would never presume my reaction to it was the only one around....

if staying high on Thai makes you "productive" good on you... But, using your argument, can't you also think of things you'd rather do that eat Thai? That argument is kind of ... well...... stoned....

but I might be wasted....

;-)

decriminalize it is merican presidential candidates position of Dennis Kucinich, current Ohio Congessman , and "No" he never smaoked it
me? i get fired if i smoke it. so i don't i get blasted on alcohol :(
prob better than 'chokes'

btw nice forum doggy,
expect a quid when you catch smee in chat

In the last three year I was smoking heavily and I found that it does put a dent in your lungs... The capacity shrinks and I was getting out of breath quicker.
Now that I am going for my 2nd Dan I have cut back dramatically.
From the worst at smoking 8 bucket bongs a night too not having had a joint touch my lips in over 2 months...
It is a good drug for helping people with traumatic pain or getting over disturbing events... But it can be habit forming...

I enjoy it and will never quit totally but will cut it down to being a Christmas treat...
With regular daily use I find it impeds my ability to function.

What is the most you guys have ever smoked in one night?

cmontgom spouted:


can't you also think of things you'd rather do that eat Thai?





Like get into a pointless circular arguement with someone who may or may not be stoned. I dont smoke it.

I never said anything about how other people shouldn't smoke it.

In my opinion its a waste of my time being stoned. My reactions to it are the reason why I dont smoke it.

Whether you choose to smoke or not is your choice and I have no right to say what anyone else can or cant do with their own body.

I agree with both Stupid face and D-vO in that it is safer than alcohol and is very good as a pain killer and it also has anti nausea properties which is good for the people on chemo.

Again the original question was What do you think of smoking weed, not hassle someone about their lifestyle choice if they choose not to smoke.

Fair answer you got there, sirk..

I also only smoke weed when i want to waste my time, or when i want to produce some music... When i'm going out to a bar or whatever i don't use it, cause it makes you lame...
Nice if you are alone or with a friend on your room, but bad when you want to have sex, or even a social conversation....

Amygdela

D-vO spouted:
In the last three year I was smoking heavily and I found that it does put a dent in your lungs... The capacity shrinks and I was getting out of breath quicker.
Now that I am going for my 2nd Dan I have cut back dramatically.
From the worst at smoking 8 bucket bongs a night too not having had a joint touch my lips in over 2 months...
It is a good drug for helping people with traumatic pain or getting over disturbing events... But it can be habit forming...

I enjoy it and will never quit totally but will cut it down to being a Christmas treat...
With regular daily use I find it impeds my ability to function.

What is the most you guys have ever smoked in one night?

Mmm, let's see... First of all, i must say i recognise what you say here, smoking weed is an impact on your lungs... In the "early years" of smoking, i could easily smoke 8 joints in a row, even more if i was still awake... but if i do so now, it kills me....

I think the most i've ever smoked in one night was maybe ten joints....Only problem is, if me and all my friends are smoking weed toghether, we always used to drink beer with it... that makes you totally insain in the head, and you can't smoke as much weed as normal, cause you pass out....:D

grtz

Weed is too problematic. It's not legal and with drug testing and everything not worth the trouble. Bascailly the drug of choice for kids who don't know any better. Once you grow up you figure out that you can simply go the doctor and complain of stress and get a precsciption for trarquilizers that work much better than weed. Totally legal and won't cause you to fail a drug test.

Well, not exactly true. You have to be very careful especially if your a footballer. Even more so if you happen to be Rio ;-)

I smoke it, I enjoy it and I don't think it's long term effects are any worse than tobacco or caffeine. Alcohol is far more dangerous, simply because you don't know you've had too much til it's too late.
It's also hard to put your finger on how much weed you've smoked because the strength is not the same every time.

I used to smoke it a lot, but I'd say that I've probably smoked about a gram in the last two years. I have no problem at all with others smoking it but will usually refuse politely if offered and explain my reasons why if asked. Basically, it doesn't really do much for me anymore. I know it seems to help with creativity in others' (particularly software developers, several of whom that I know are almost constantly stoned during working hours) but I find that I'm more creative when not stoned*. That's just me.

I don't really understand Sirk's assertion that it destroys 'productivity'. What kind of job do you have and why the fuck would you care? Unless you're a driver, a pilot or a professional sportsman, of course.


*Actually, I find that my creativity preaks in the week following a serious acid trip, but obviously this is not a long-term solution.

i smoke loads. i stopped when i was pregnant, then as soon as i got out of hospital i was off to get an ounce.
im not sure what it feels like not to be stoned now! infact when i havent had a joint people always ask me why im acting so different!

Dazzla spouted:
I don't really understand Sirk's assertion that it destroys 'productivity'. What kind of job do you have and why the fuck would you care? Unless you're a driver, a pilot or a professional sportsman, of course.




I was actually speaking for myself on that one and not anybody else. Considering the fact that the various jobs I do (I work in a small engineering firm where we build sportscars for export for 1 job, I am a vision switcher/ audio tech/ director/ camera operator all live to air for another job and work for yet another firm setting up setting up for corporate events and filming them on occasion) I need to be on top of my game at all times. I operate on any given day I operate equipment that is worth the same as a small house and or has the ability to maim, injure or kill myself or the people around me.

I find that with TV work I do that even a can of something like Red Bull on the morning can affect my performance in the evening.

As to why should I care? Because I like to do the best job that I can no matter how crap the work environment is. Its a personal satisfaction thing. I feel better knowing that I have done the best that I can do.

nammythom spouted:
i smoke loads. i stopped when i was pregnant, then as soon as i got out of hospital i was off to get an ounce.
im not sure what it feels like not to be stoned now! infact when i havent had a joint people always ask me why im acting so different!

I'm sure you'll make a great mother. :/

actually i am a great mother!
i have enough energy to have a joint and not be completely spaced out,and i never smoke infront of the kids.
but i think theres nothing wrong in doing it atall, yes i have a few joints a day but it probably affects me for the better, it makes me calmer and i can just breeze through the day.
i dont smoke cigarettes or do other drugs, and barely drink or go out nowadays.
my dad smokes puff(my mum never realised!) and i wouldnt mind the children doing it when theyre older although i probably wouldnt admit i did it.
my bf is totally against puff and hates me doing it, but accepts im not braindead when i do.
omg, im sounding like a defensive junkie(you probably think i am).but anybody who smokes loads of puff will know that being stoned isnt like it is when you hardly smoke it atall.

i used to smoke it, i think the last time I had a joint was 3 years ago, when I stopped being a perpetual student and got a proper job. Now, I have the cloud of "random drug testing" hanging over my head. It's not worth getting fired for. Also, if I was caught I'd be deported back to Blighty. The prospect doesn't bear thinking about.

However, I miss it. I always preferred a smoke to getting drunk. A much nicer high with less side effects. I even started to use it when I was writing my thesis and had writers block. I wrote some of my best stuff that way.

Another reason for stopping was having to deal with lowlife dealer scum. I used to get it from a friend, who had a cousin, who had a friend. My mate moved away, I didn't know the cousin, so I went straight to the source. Once when I was hitting it pretty hard, he started to sell me weaker stuff, so I'd be back sooner. Stopped going to him after that.

I'd smoke it again if I could. If I win the lottery, I'm going to buy loads of the stuff.

used to smoke every day but got paranoid when i realised how fucked my lungs were...making cakes,cookie,fudge,etc is much better...you can adjust for how stoned you want to be very accurately too...its the choice of the new generation!

I find that smoking is one of them best ways to relax ever, but I also find that it makes me irritable the day after and excessively lazy... Not good when you need to train for a 2nd Dan

d-vo I shouldnt think you should be really smoking AT ALL if you're going for your 2nd dan (in what by the way?). However you'd know more about it than me.

Smoking weed is great in moderation. I went through a period of about 6 months where I'd get wasted every night. And the more a smoked the more I needed to smoke in order to get the same effect. Luckily I was able to kick the habit and now only smoke if someone invites me for a sesh.... otherwise I'm not bothered..... good job too cos after those 6 months my brain was mush!

Funny thing that - in that time I built up an immunity to ganja in so much that if I was smoking solid I'd get to the point (usually about 4am) where the smoke just wasnt doing anything.....

I have groups of mates who smoke all the time and once a month or so I'll catch up with them for a smoke. It's great but it takes hardly anything to get me stoned these days :D

Always better that way. Like drinking, if you do it in moderation it actually means more, and represents more when it comes to it.

Goddamit calm down
ifs ya smokes ya smokes ifs ya dont ya dont.Big deal.
me i do have done for about 16 years,and i,m ok
dont really care about anybody else or their opinion on it , i do it cause I like it.
Seems most people have tried it and made up their own minds so what is the point of this thread???
its not like government legislation is going to change with a bunch of stoners winging on a forum now is it?

I've smoked weed on a fairly regular basis since my 20s, and, I must admit, Ive had some great times whilst under te influence. However, it is MAJORLY habit forming and as the years pass, the 'buzz' of the iniitial years smoking it wears off. You're left psycologically addicted.....and that is a fucking FACT. In addition, whereas smoking is always first a 'fun' expereince, you're eventually left wanting to smoke dope just for the sake of smoking dope. Sometimes, nothing else matters....and that can be frighteting.

Don't get me wrong now. I've smoked dope for many years and I've had some great times on it. Its made me appreciate music a lot more and led to some great conversations. However, in the end, I found the stuff was taking over my life..I just wanted that next spliff, and I was smoking every night (and often during the day!!).

I've only just recently managed to get my weed habit to the weekends..and even that took huge willpower on my part. I've now found my zest for life has returned, I feel healthier and much more connected to whats going on around me. Saying that, I still love my weekend smoke!!

khalin spouted:
I've smoked weed on a fairly regular basis since my 20s, and, I must admit, Ive had some great times whilst under te influence. However, it is MAJORLY habit forming and as the years pass, the 'buzz' of the iniitial years smoking it wears off. You're left psycologically addicted.....and that is a fucking FACT. In addition, whereas smoking is always first a 'fun' expereince, you're eventually left wanting to smoke dope just for the sake of smoking dope. Sometimes, nothing else matters....and that can be frighteting.

Don't get me wrong now. I've smoked dope for many years and I've had some great times on it. Its made me appreciate music a lot more and led to some great conversations. However, in the end, I found the stuff was taking over my life..I just wanted that next spliff, and I was smoking every night (and often during the day!!).

I've only just recently managed to get my weed habit to the weekends..and even that took huge willpower on my part. I've now found my zest for life has returned, I feel healthier and much more connected to whats going on around me. Saying that, I still love my weekend smoke!!


Absolutely true!!

I used to have this as well. me and a couple of friends started smoking weed, and a year later weed was the only connection we had with eachother... If there was no weed there was no reason to see eachother... I still got that hunger to smoke a joint every night before bedtime, when i'm ALONE, not with anyone!! If i'm alone or with other smokers, it's fine with me, but when i'm around non-smokers, or i have to visit one later, i just don't s it anymore... far easier to maintain your social contacts this way...
Two thumbs up for you Khalin, i know how tuff it is to give up smoking....

Greetz,

Amygdela

I can see a lot of validity in the points made about addiction however I disagree. Scientific studies conducted by various medical bodies, including the BMI, state that cannabis is not addictive. The fact that it CAN be psychologically addictive, I feel, is irrelevent, everything can be psycologically addictive, including shopping, chocolate, the internet, working too hard, washing your hands etc There can be no argument against cannabis from the psycological point of view for this reason. That's not to say that I don't have sympathy, any habit whether physical or psycological is hard to break, I'm currently about four weeks into giving up smoking so I have great sympathy for you, I just don't feel that there is a strong argument against the smoking of what is essentially a simple herb on the basis that it can be psycologically addictive.

Smoking cannibis in itself is not especially harmful, it contains many more carcinogens but the average user smokes less joints in a week than most smokers do in a day (in a unch break if it's a hard day!!) he problem comes if you get addicted to the tobacco, which is physically addictive adn more harmful due to the necessity of larger quantities. This is what happened to me and I have only just given up and resumed occasional joint smoking wih no tobacco smoking the rest of the time. I don't know the effect all this smoke has had on my lungs but I know from the way food tastes, the amount of coughing I do etc etc that it was not good.

So I guess my point is that cannabis, like everything, should present no problems in moderation.

I have never tried it and I probably never would but I don't see why it can't be legalised for medicinal use. Surely if people are going to benefit from it then it should be legalised under certain rules.

But why does it have to be smoked for medicinal purposes? Surely it can be taken as a pill, a syrup or in food and still have the same health benefits.

Well, not totally true sirk.. If people suffering from astma use it on docters receipt, they have to smoke it to widen up their pipe and lungs...

If you eat it, you just get extremely stoned all f*cking day long, and i don't think there's anything medical about that :D

Greetz,

Amygdela

Its well known that Queen Victoria used to use tincture of cannabis (an oral preparation) for period pains and it was available in that form from any chemist right up to the 1930s. Then Harold.J.Anslinger(spawn of satan himself) arrived on the international scene and forced nearly all the developed countries of the world to illegalise cannabis on the grounds that it would send your children insane. This archaic law has only recently been lifted and i am sure the sufferers of MS etc. will finally get the relief from pain they so badly need without fear of prosecution.

Wayne-Carr spouted:
Its well known that Queen Victoria used to use tincture of cannabis (an oral preparation) for period pains and it was available in that form from any chemist right up to the 1930s. Then Harold.J.Anslinger(spawn of satan himself) arrived on the international scene and forced nearly all the developed countries of the world to illegalise cannabis on the grounds that it would send your children insane. This archaic law has only recently been lifted and i am sure the sufferers of MS etc. will finally get the relief from pain they so badly need without fear of prosecution.

Wow, never knew how marihuana got illegal! fortunately I live in The Netherlands, and smoking weed there is just as legal as getting some milk.... but the whole world knows that, so this was a stupid reply...

I think it's fine, should be legalized.

Personally I don't smoke it often, but only because I'm a cheap bastard.

So some of us like it and some don't, why can't we all just get along? Well, because those that like it are criminalised, Wayne was right, Anslinger was the spawn of Satan, the big drive to criminalise cannabis users came from him and publishing magnate William Randolf Hearst (the inspiration for Citizen Kane). Both these evil fuckers spoiled it for all of us, Anslinger didn't like Hemp because of the threat that it posed to synthetic fibres such as nylon and that threatened his interests in Du Pont, a large chemical manufacturer.
Hearsts reasons were more base, he hated Mexicans for stealing some of his land and stigmatised smokers with the term "Marijuana" (a mexican word)... cue Reefer Madness and some very scary public information films.

As with most of history's prohibitions, Cannabis is illegal because of a few tossers, not scientific evidence or public desire.

I gave up smoking cigarettes by smoking weed. Whenever I had a craving, I smoked a bong. If I was at work and I got fidgety, I sneaked off and had a crafty pipe. I was stoned continually for a year. From the point where I had my first bong before breakfast to when I passed out on the couch at night I was stoned.

Then one day I had to get a new dealer. I still haven't found a new one. I had no cravings at all and I have smoked dope perhaps three times in the last year. Is it as addictive as cigarettes? Not even fucking close.

The moral of my story. Weed is a gift from God. If you want to use it, please do. If you don't, then don't feel that you have to. If you are against weed, I suggest you stop telling people what they can put into their own body. You simply don't have the right.

My mind is not what it used to be.

What are we talking about again?

Ive smoked it for but I getting to the stage where I know I need to stop for the sake of my head. Apparently you can buy vaporisors which heat the THC out of the weed and you breath in the warm air. Meant to work just as well but isnt as bad on your lungs.

One thing I am sure of is that its a lot better for you than a lot of the prescribed drugs on the market.

I've used a vaporiser. They are great. You can't feel it going in. It's just like inhaling warm fog. But it doesn't half get you stoned

Well you've convinced me! Now wheres that joint?

What did you just say?

Sorry its my problem

i dont personally smoke it but quite a few of my mates do i was staying with one of my friends who smokes a fair bit.

i quote "im not addicted to it it is just a nice way to chill"

then later "im gonna go smoke one i cant get to sleep without it"

i have also worked training pepole in engineering one of the guys i was training who acheived really good GCSE grades smoked all the time, and he changed from a grade student to someone who couldn't really grasp basic concepts without hours and hours of assistance.

having never smoked it i cant really comment on how addictive it is or how good / bad it is, but i guess like alcohol everything is o.k. in moderation, if used responsibly.

I hear that. Im ok in the job I do because it is second nature but I have to admit my mind has suffered since smoking it. Not to a massive degree, but the longer I do it the worse it will get. I know that much. Dont need it to sleep though.

Instead of smoking it, why not bake it in sausage rolls? If you also mix in plenty of Herbes de Provence and tomato puree the taste is disguised. Only trouble is the effect seems to last for 2 - 3 days.

John the Proff spouted:
Instead of smoking it, why not bake it in sausage rolls? If you also mix in plenty of Herbes de Provence and tomato puree the taste is disguised. Only trouble is the effect seems to last for 2 - 3 days.

Now your talking!!

Have finally purchased a pipe, unfortuantely the lack of greenery at the moment means I haven't yet given it a blast. Thought I'd try some pure weed in a cigar skin. I've heard good things about them and will keep you posted.

Oh, just for the record. Smoking weed was the first of my New Years resolutions that I broke. Not addictive??? Still havent made up my mind yet.

It makes me puke and twitch in a corner. Now class A's however..... ;)

To quote the great Bill Hicks, 'Not all drugs are good for you, some are fucking great'

Only users lose drugs...

LOL. good work my man.

Have been off it for two weeks. Can I sleep, can I fuck. I would therfore like to retract my earlier comment about it not affecting my sleep. Someone get me some weed damn it!! :) Must be strong, I can do this

I'm one the few people I know that suffers from insomnia the more weed I smoke.
One joint and it'll take me 'bout an hour to drop off, two and it'll be 'bout two hours...

Still there's worse things than being caned and lying tucked up in bed having Aldous Huxley type experiences...

life would be shit without weed what would be the point of working beer sucks BUCKFAST WINE AND WEED what more could a body ask for

lets not get too technical here, take it from mother earth(like its natural form), and the bounty shall be returned.

Skunk weed is like mana from heaven, I ask what is the point of stopping completly just sometimes I don't smoke that much. Last christmas we had a bin liner full of skunk that we had grown, and smoked the fucking lot in a two week period, I can't remember fuck all aboout it but i'm sure it was good.

Lil' al spouted:
It makes me puke and twitch in a corner. Now class A's however..... ;)

Ah but you would appear to be part of a siamese triplets

http://www.dogbomb.co.uk/board/images/uploaded/10580_photo.jpg

which could well explain your tendancy to puke and twitch in the corner.

Now that cannabis is to be downgraded to a class c drug - even after all the govenrment reports branding it a "gateway" drug - will those imprison for any offences be released early ?

I used to partate in the odd joint here and there - preferably skunk with no tobabaco. has it made me a bad person, not really. I used to and to an extent today sufffere from insomnia, skunk knocked that right on the head :D

Better than alcohol ? right ?

Makes me go to sleep much easier...more than that, all the greatness of alcohol but with no hangover...

We had a month long smoking binge over my semester break...my lungs still hurt...

yeah well....

weed is fantastic.... no wait... GOOD weed is fantastic.

but you see...... *mystical music*......

all drugs kill of brain cells. and NO other drug kills more as fast as weed. so you can and most likely will end up with physical holes in your brain, which is never good. people have been scanned and its been revealed that they have holes the size of golf balls in their brains.......

but yes. weed is good.

Taya spouted:
which is never good. people have been scanned and its been revealed that they have holes the size of golf balls in their brains.......

but yes. weed is good.

that sir, is laughable.

people have been scanned and its been revealed that they have holes the size of golf balls in their brains.......


Yeah? Presumably they were dead?

http://www.ntlworld.com/partners/itn/entertainment/1565567.php

:D

hmmm

loads of differing opinions here. It is worth remembering that the most addictive thing about a joint (or 6) is the tobacco you smoke it with.

I think that it is the unalienable right of every human being on this planet (well, some of us ;) ) to live our lives in the way we choose. Most people choose to break the law (legal or moral) every day (speeding, adultery etc), but no one harps on about that......

re : Holes in brains.....Taya...can u get me some of whatever your dealer is TELLING you is weed ??


AND BuB....get yourself a "blue meanie"...WAY better than a pipe you might wanna check out www.yahooka.com

I love drugs and did them till they screwed me up so much that I could not sleep or remember my own berfday...:(

Had to do a cold turkey period locked in my room for four weeks. Aint no joke I can tell you.

Still i dont mock or preach to thoose who do drugs.
Experiance is what life is about go and do them all, I did.

At some point I dont know when but me and my friends slowed and then stopped the class A's. (I think it was after my friend freaked and OD and died in my arms)

Still I ramble ... at some point you get to thinking about how you dont amount to much and better stop.

Smoking weed effects different people in different ways, it would be best if it could be made illegal for the people who are a negative impact on other people and legal for the rest but it's not really practical to enforce that kind of law.

I've enjoyed it quite a few times but more often than not I find it difficult to get accustomed to something upstream of my mind and can easily get to thinking it's not right and that in turn makes me anxious, I've just got a tendancy towards introspection, but from that together with the short term memory I can get confused as well.. in fact my memorys not as good as it used to be, so I think that fear destroys brain cells or something.

I've left it alone now for years, if anything my problems not going out enough and having fun but I've done weed (and a few other things) already in my life so I'm not that fussed, nothing really shocked me out of it and I never had a habit anyway, I guess I was just lucky in that respect.

My mate had a copy of 'Weed World' and there is a method of extracting oil from soap bars. Gonna be giving that a go when i get full details.

i did an 8000 word project on cannabis

my conclusions after a lot of research. (nothing new)

1. Is not physically addictive
2. is psychologically addictive.
3. Evidence of enlargement the lateral ventricles of the brain (not good)
4. Not not cause schizophrenia, but may make it worse. (schizophrenia by the way is as common as diabetes.)
5. Causes paranoia depression in susceptible people.
6. No deaths have been caused as a result of cannabis smoking. Only death associated with alcohol as a contributory factor + vomiting.
7. Is therapeutic for people with epilepsy, Multiple sclerosis, anxiety, glaucoma, asthma (if not administered by smoking), AIDS wasting syndrome and several others.

I have been smoking weed on and off for about 2 years. I wish I didnt, because it makes you not give a fuck and so makes me lazy, depersonalised, socially inhibited and slows me down: i dont want to do anything when stoned. But when the world becomes more than intelorable, there is nothing quite like a good fucking spliff.

if weed was a tree, I would hug it.

In the end of the day, anything can be missused and there are people who shouldn't be allowed to drive, drink caffiene, alcohol or meths, there are people that should stay away from sugar, e-numbers, cholesterol and babies, I've met people that would dervie no good whatsoever from trying any psychoactive substance - but I'M NOT ONE OF THEM.

I've had good and bad experiences on a wide range of drugs and have learned enough to know how and when to use them to my benefit.

People have been smoking weed for 15,000 years!! the earliest known settlements showed signs that neolithic people cultivated it not only for the useful hemp fibres but also because of the THC's that got them high.

After 15,000 years of relative peace, the weed smoker now has to behave like a criminal for a couple of hundred years whilst a couple of idiot politicians argue about the impact legalised weed will have on society.

To be honest, I reckon the proof of the puding is in the testing, I don't know anybody who would stay away from weed just because it's illegal, if anyone reckons legalising it would have the slightest impact whatsoever on society, they should take into account the fact that people openly smoke, buy and grow weed every day, hundreds of thousands of them, what difference is a change in the law going to make??? It'll stop making criminals of those hundreds of thousands of them. Maybe a few babies will be raped as a result, but I doubt it.

Personally I don't like the stuff, only tried it once (super skunk, I remember having trouble walking, but not much else! :P).

Remember my mates getting into it in a big way when I was a teenager. Made them lethargic, basically turned them into a set of boring fuckers who would just sit around all night (sometimes all day too) staring into space.

But, if thats what you want, it's your choice not mine, do what you like.

BTW now all my mates are on coke, they're much more fun to be around! :))

magicguppy spouted:

People have been smoking weed for 15,000 years!! the earliest known settlements showed signs that neolithic people cultivated it not only for the useful hemp fibres but also because of the THC's that got them high


Somehow I don't think the people who built stonehenge were potheads.

Caveman 1: "Shall we move that big stone over there?"

Caveman 2: "Nah, can't be arsed. Lets do it tommorrow."

Caveman 1: "I'm starving, is there a garage open anywhere?"

harry007jnr spouted:


Somehow I don't think the people who built stonehenge were potheads.


As unlikely as it sounds:

Excerpts from the Twelve Constellations of the Girdle from Gaia from the Genesis of Eden, spouted
Hemp seeds have been found at a variety of Neolithic sites in Germany, Switzerland, Austria and Romania. Like the opium poppy, hemp grows as a weed, and its proximity to prehistoric communities was a factor in its domestication" (Rudgley 28). One of our oldest cultivars, Cannabis has been a five-purpose plant: fiber, seed oil, for its seeds as food, for its psychoactive properties, and therapeutically as a medicine (Schultes & Hofmann 92).

i need some help. can anyone find some information regarding the legislation on cannabis in the uk? pleeeeeeeeeeeeeese.

ashez..

depends what the question is...

but you might wanna try www.yahooka.com

http://www.erowid.org/ is my bible

There is information about legislation for all substances, mostly US but UK stuff is there if you look for it.

Try the Cannabis information rather than the "freedom and Law" link

thank you magic pups

and dukesy ;)

Atlthough im all for the legalization of cannabis ,is nt there a danger that we might all become lazy bastards.

I find lazy people use being stoned as an excuse to slack off rather than a reason. I've smoked pot for 18 years and have had only six months out of work, due to redundancy, when i went to college. I agree being relaxed is the a reason for smoking it, but everyone knows when they're being a lazy bastard. Scored half-ounce of White-Widow yesterday evening, partied last night, am painting my bathroom now (waiting for the first coat to dry), whilst smoking, then im gonna tidy up and cook dinner for my girlfriend. Lazy, not me.

Nothing like watching paint dry ,after a good bucket-bong

magicguppy spouted:


As unlikely as it sounds:



Hehe, waddaya know. Learn something new every day!

I like smoking weed i can smoke for a few weeks and stop strait away its not as leathal as tabbaco or alcahol pretty much most of the world smokes weed and has done for thousends of years and why has it only been made illigal in the past hundred years it dosent make sense i think its due to tabbaco,alcohol and oil companies cause hemp can make oil for cars but smoking weed is natural and im not going to stop because the stupid filth say so.

Jeezus...

Bumped from the black hole or wot ????

Ahh, how I miss the evil green. :bigfatone:

Hmmm

Mee too


Went from about an Oz a month to nothing last april...

Had one Q since... (Mates Bday)

Other than that, nothing....

Man I miss it

Not a single lug for 3 months.

I used to smoke far too much (5 or 6 j's a night). Rarely smoke it these days.

I'm pretty much an ex-stoner who indulges on rare occasions (usually when i'm drunk). It use to help me sleep and relax, but the paranoia and general sluggishness that became apparent wasn't fun nor was it productive. Lungs aside, its probably one of the worst substances to use on everyday basis if you have paranoid or flippant mind, pretty much the reason a dear friend of mine is now diagnosed with schizophrenia (cannabis psychosis)... The mental effects are obviously different for everyone, but they shouldn't be overlooked. Anyhow, the occasional bifta can be wonderful though - post coital, in the bathtub and outdoors in a wooded environment at night.

I'll still champion the weed , but find I'm participating in it less and less as time goes by.

I think I 'm just killing myself with legal stuff now.

i did an 8000 word project on cannabis

my conclusions after a lot of research. (nothing new)

1. Is not physically addictive
2. is psychologically addictive.
3. Evidence of enlargement the lateral ventricles of the brain (not good)
4. Does not cause schizophrenia, but may make it worse. (schizophrenia by the way is as common as diabetes.)
5. Causes paranoia depression in susceptible people.
6. No deaths have been caused as a result of cannabis smoking. Only death associated with alcohol as a contributory factor + vomiting.
7. Is therapeutic for people with epilepsy, Multiple sclerosis, anxiety, glaucoma, asthma (if not administered by smoking), AIDS wasting syndrome and several others.

I have been smoking weed on and off for about 2 years. I wish I didnt, because it makes you not give a fuck and so makes me lazy, depersonalised, socially inhibited and slows me down: i dont want to do anything when stoned. But when the world becomes more than intelorable, there is nothing quite like a good fucking spliff.

if weed was a tree, I would hug it.

Ok so I'd like to take issue with only a couple of things here... as a semi professional weed smoker (been smoking in the evenings for a good few years now!) Point 2 of your conclusions is wrong... I would have thought you would have realised after all your research that what this should say is CAN BE rather than IS psychologically addictive. It all depends on how weak minded the individual your talking about is....

As for the lazy depersonalised thing, I guess it's effects are different for everyone, however I personally find it to be a pleasant experience where I am less socailly inhibited than usual and can talk to anyone who is willing to listen, I smoke as I say on a daily basis in the evening after 8 hours @ the office it's the most pleasant feeling to just let the tension slide away and feel myself truly relax.
For those of you who might come out with the fact that I smoke every day means I'm an addict I should point out that I do occasionally feel the compulsion to stop smoking for a period of time to clear my head and thoughts and get myself in order.

This has NEVER been an issue for me. So to all of those who would castigate and lock away pot smokers consider this, in the UK I could rape someone and spend less time in prison than if I'm caught for possesion with intent to supply pot... Fair?? I think not, and the government wonders why their prisons are overcrowded?

Fair?? I think not

Interesting point, but have you considered that Rape destorys far fewer lives, and the average weed dealer won't refuse to sell you something stronger.

I'm pretty much an ex-stoner who indulges on rare occasions (usually when i'm drunk). It use to help me sleep and relax, but the paranoia and general sluggishness that became apparent wasn't fun nor was it productive. Lungs aside, its probably one of the worst substances to use on everyday basis if you have paranoid or flippant mind, pretty much the reason a dear friend of mine is now diagnosed with schizophrenia (cannabis psychosis)... The mental effects are obviously different for everyone, but they shouldn't be overlooked. Anyhow, the occasional bifta can be wonderful though - post coital, in the bathtub and outdoors in a wooded environment at night.

I don't like to make a habit of quoting entire posts, but absolutely bang on. The exact reasons I knocked it on the head. I still think it was the main cause of my anxiety disorder (severe panic attacks etc). I'm just about alright now, mind. Having said that, I don't think I could have got through my final year at uni without it. It helped me detach and sleep on a night.

But yeah, the occasional joint can be a wonderful thing.

Interesting point, but have you considered that Rape destorys far fewer lives, and the average weed dealer won't refuse to sell you something stronger.

Fair enough, however I amk referring to my dealer, who only sells pot, if he was caught by the police, they would arrest him, prosecute him and lock him away for 7 years (standard sentence now I believe!)

Whereas the same guy could rape someone and either get off with a smack on the wrists or a couple of years at most...

I don't think that people who deal pot need to be locked up in fact I think that the whole thing just smells of "vote grabbing" by the government 5 years ago the police were calling for it's licencing and legalisation (to an extent)

To show something the police are now calling for the licencing of heroine on the NHS to "lower crime rates". I mean come on WTF?? What is the world coming to when you can smoke tobacco and drink alcohol (two of, if not the most, dangerous and addictive drugs on the planet) and yet not smoke weed in the privacy of your own home without worrying what the police are going to do.

It's just not right, the justice system in the UK is run by that Craig Charles, Tony Blair and his pro-america, war mongering buddies. They should stop fighting a pointless war and perhaps concentrate on making our own country less of a third world one (altho' we're not quite at the point of America yet!)

Anyway enough of my ramblings, yes I agree that those who peddle or push class A's onto young children should be locked away, however if a responsible adult wishes to purchase something like pot for recreational use I say let 'em... It's supposed to be a free country after all, or is that no longer the case.

I do wonder!

I amk referring to my dealer, who only sells pot,

Does he grow his own, or does he buy it from someone else in bulk?

Does he grow his own, or does he buy it from someone else in bulk?

He grows his own weed man I don't do skunk (chemical shite!) I only smoke things that are of the earth, he is a friend of mine and so I will only buy from him... Not even really a dealer in my opinion just a friend selling a service to a small group of friends.

And so no he doesn't and I don't fund the drug "problem" in the country, which I can only imagine is why you asked..

Not even really a dealer in my opinion just a friend selling a service to a small group of friends.

Ha ha ha ha, my mate's not a murderer, he just kills people, but thats ok, cause hes my mate ha ha ha ha


And so no he doesn't and I don't fund the drug "problem" in the country, which I can only imagine is why you asked..

So hes not only a dealer, hes a manufacturer as well. I seriously hope these boards aren't monitored, for your sake.