http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml

Its true. Its all true. And its me.

Im off to cry now...

fantastic.

Well, I'm not a nice guy... I'm a good god, there's a big difference... you can here me called out all over the world ;-D

stoke_fields spouted:
http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml

Its true. Its all true. And its me.

Im off to cry now...

taht was just depressing reading it. would not say i fall into the catergory of nice guy but do not fall all that far short of it -and it pisses me off.

fireboy spouted:


taht was just depressing reading it. would not say i fall into the catergory of nice guy but do not fall all that far short of it -and it pisses me off.

What you need right now then is some Take That... with Relight My Fire.

had a 12 year old bint ride my bus for 3 hours, my bus radio was wanked... my mate showed up at midnight, he had her call her outstanding family...
wha's the ?

netniV spouted:
What you need right now then is some Take That... with Relight My Fire.
Why? What horrible crime has he committed? You do realise that Saddam Hussein was regaled with that before he gave himself up. "Never could stand that cunt Robbie Williams", he told the American soldiers when he was captured. "Who the fuck's Robbie Williams?" said the Yanks.

netniV spouted:


What you need right now then is some Take That... with Relight My Fire.

I put "Hanging Onto Your Love" on instead

Am loving that website.

I'm not far off that description. That's rather disconcerting. Somebody give this woman something to keep her typing fingers occupied.

dominoid spouted:
Somebody give this woman something to keep her typing fingers occupied.


My cock to stroke and suck!

Then she can get on with the ironing...



Ah well, I can dream... ;)

I wouldn't want her to iron my cock!

Pffffffft! well that website gets the Dogcow 2004 award for Stating the Bloody Obvious.

Somewhat ironic though on a site that purports to be for self proclaimed confident empowered women, that they take an entire page to prove that the age old Alpha Male truism "Treat 'em mean, keep 'em keen" is as certain today as it ever was.

That site spouted...
"Nice Guys rarely speak up when something bothers them, and rarely state clearly what it is they want, need and expect."

All guys could say that about women - whether or not they be Heartless Bitches (R)

"Treat 'em mean, keep 'em keen"
I don't think that way of dealing with a potential partner works or is a particulary clever way of dealing with people. Certainly wouldn't work on me. After a while the person who is being treated meanly would get fed up and give up.
Someone being clingey and totally indecisive is a big turn off. You need give and take. Presents and flowers are nice surprises if you get them occaisionally, but they aren't essential.

Any decent relationship needs to be reasonably equal for it to survive healthily with both partners happy. Once you've passed the stage where you are both talking at the same level to a very dominated one (whether that's through emotional or physical domination) it's not the best it could be at.

In any relationship there will always be a stronger partner, and it's up to them to help keep things balanced so the other isn't made to feel inferior.

netniV spouted:
Well, I'm not a nice guy... I'm a good god, there's a big difference... you can here me called out all over the world ;-D

Its true!! I was watching Southend United only the other week and screamed 'OH GOD' for the umptenth time and was finally answered. A tap in at the far post but God himself came to my rescue that day. What is thy bidding oh lord?

Speaking as a totally nice guy (I know I am: every girl who has dumped me has said so!), I'd like to smack the twisted bitch who wrote that article with a large kipper. :D Not that I'm taking it too seriously...

I think that the problem is that the woman who wote that article meant it to be taken seriously, but I'm sure that when people do, she berates them for doing so. The truth is, there are women who are attracted to violent psychopaths and they generally pay a high price for this character flaw, leading misreable lives stopping some fucked-up retard or another's fists.

By writing this article, she's really just giving those women an excuse to carry on, and giving the men another incentive to keep doing it.

So let her carry on not liking 'nice guys' and when she's married to some bloke who goes out shagging other women and not even bothering to lie about it, we'll see if she wants to come back and revise that article.

Also, she complains that 'Nice Guys' blame women for their failed relationships when it's their fault - on a site called 'heartless-bitches.com'. Does she not see a discrepancy here?

Don't fall in the face of this crude pychological warfare boys. She's trying to mess with your minds. I would suggest this to her, but would probably be lambasted for 'taking it too seriously'. "I was taking the piss" is the retard's last defence, like "We were just playing."

How about we set up a spoof site called 'abusive-cunts.com' complaining about doormat women?

The discrepancy is indeed elusive.

saw a picture ,nice bra dvert this week
bint had a mole and all 'dat.

Has someone posted this thread on that site?

I would love a heartless-bitch (R) to become a member of dogbomb and defend herself...

It's true she does need help.

the hound is a southend fan ?

up the tigers mate....

i dunno about this aticle i like to think of myself as a nice guy but i aint exactly no wet blanket. personally i jus go through life not givin a shit but treatin people ok and i got a gf of 7 months and still got all my mates so i dont think im doin shit all wrong

moxie spouted:
The discrepancy is indeed elusive.

Really? What does it elude?

The problem is that nice guys tend to date the bitches and the nice girls date the arse holes. It works both ways. Treat them mean, keep them keen isnt quite right but its not too far off the mark. We've all seen "that girl" in action before. The one who treats her boyfriend like shit and he just never leaves. No-one leaves a bitch. One thing I did agree with was that if thats how your relationships go then you need to look at yourself. Not so much that theres something wrong with you but you need to re-examine your choices.
But if you want to know what most decent women want (lord knows theres not too many out there) I can tell you. They're looking for the alpha male. Whilst not everyone has the same taste (thank god) they're looking for the best of whatever they look for ie. the best looking, smartest, best with computers- whatever it is that they go for. Also one of the most attractive qualities is confidence. Girls all too often screw up and mistake arrogance for confidence.
OK, think I'm done with that rant....

Have left bitches on quite a few occasions. How do you even know what you are looking for ?

Can't even be bothered to look into your argument it's so flawed.

The cogent quoted portion is from a cross-post/recast/spawn of this thread in another forum.


Their definition of 'nice guy' is not mine. Their definition is what I think of as wimps or 'the incompletely socialized'. but then I don't think I'm a heartless bitch either.

Nice guys are guys who are confident, caring, smart, don't put people down, and open. Nice guys aren't afraid of babies, even if they don't relate to them or want any themselves. They don't tease hurtfully, don't stiff people on the bill and leave a good tip. Nice guys make up what I would consider to be 95% of my male friends. Nice guys usually marry very well. And yeah. I agree with that web page that you have to love yourself first. Nice guys I know do.

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What's more if you really read that article, it's not the author's definition either. That's why "nice guy" is in quotes. And then followed by (tm). Only after they've made what they're saying clear do they use the shorthand; and then it's still capitalized. What they are defining is some sort of "nice guy syndrome." It's the guy who, at age 13, ascribes the label "nice guy" to himself, and gives up, rather than working on his own personal growth and/or ability to treat women as equals. (Or sometimes, is unable to grow due to his own not-his-fault situation; PLEASE get help.)

Links below may help:

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/publicat/bpd.cfm - related to that:
http://www.mhsanctuary.com/borderline/
http://www.bpdcentral.com/

http://www.jimhopper.com/male-ab/ related to that:
http://www.issd.org/

And, so, of course there is absolutely nothing in any valid non-tongue-in-cheek definition of "nice guy" that is incompatible with thrilling the heck out of me, or any red-blooded guy-loving humanoid I would seek the company of.

Now, I'm not saying I agree with the article. But, before anyone says "that's me, ergo I'll never get anywhere with women" (women psychopaths excluded) read the darn thing. Not just the sentences that jump out at you because the words flow like something you've heard or thought before.

For example, do you really think what's below describes YOU?


You never know if a Nice Guy really likes you for who you are, or if he has glommed onto you out of desperation because you actually payed some kind of attention to him.
emphasis added.

That "nice guy" is actually a user, like the type of man who will sleep with a woman he detests, just to be getting laid. The main difference is that this guy will do it longer than one night, and for higher stakes.

Are you really looking for a woman with a guilt complex to take care of you like your mother did when you were an infant, for no reason other than that you exist and you whine for it? No? Then you may very well be a nice guy, but you don't have "nice guy" syndrome.

If it does sound like you, see above.

Damn, out of time and the DB dumped me again. No time to edit any more.
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If you look at people with Asperger's syndrome, you will find that their understanding of relationships can fall into the last quote of yours Aeon. Therefore, they act like they think they should be, rather than having learnt what they are.

If you do have any friends like that, it can be an interesting experience to see them grow as they do learn it, and I believe a lot can.

But then, it leads you to wondering if some won't just used that as an excuse and not change. Maybe to help them out, we should start a date-a-"nice guy"-athon(tm). :-D

I used to fall into that nice guy charecter. Lately Ive become somewhat callous and cynical.

Dont get fucked around with much anymore.

nice guys always "glom" onto me. its hell annoying.

because i dont walk all over them they think i must be in love with them.

they need a good slappin, or a good shag

because i dont walk all over them they think i must be in love with them.


Or maybe you just project an air of desperation? Your use of the word 'hell' as an intensive adverb would certainly seem to evidence this.

Taya spouted:
nice guys always "glom" onto me. its hell annoying.

because i dont walk all over them they think i must be in love with them.

they need a good slappin, or a good shag

Oh oh, I'm a nice guy today... I might need both options though .. :)

its extremely annoying.

forgive my use of the underworld's name in vain, this country is addicted to wu-tang rap music, it starts to mess with your head after its blared everywhere all the time.

but i can definatley see where the woman was coming from when she wrote this article. as far as i've found there are some genuinely nice guys who are just really unlucky, but there are those who are looking for a security blanket to crawl under.

There's also a lot more women that are that way.