I limit myself to once a week when I haven't got work the next day. When I used to smoke more my energy levels went too low.

Tried it a few times, can't stand the way it makes me feel.

Every now and then. I used to smoke it all the time, but you find yourself getting fuck all done. Just the occasional smoke for me these days..

I like smoking weed. Smoke it usually friday and at the week ends...

If I do smoke it during the week it just makes me feel shit for the next day at work maaan :)

Can't smoke weed - makes me become a homicidal maniac - plus it sets off my asthma.

My friends have the learnt the hard way not to smoke near me - don't care if they do or don't, just as long as they keep a decent distance.

Once or twice a week, don't like feeling groggy in the mornings at work, so I leave my wee lump till the weekends.

Addictive my arse, I can go weeks without a smoke and then binge for weeks.

i dont smoke but i have occasional has coffees does that count?

You sure you're not having one now?

gawd that was really badly typed it was supposed to say;

i dont smoke so i occasionally have hash coffee does that count ??

and no im not having one now !

Yes, it counts. As does any chocolate cake with dope in it.

An old mate of mine smokes everyday. He rarely washes, and I am pretty sure he doesn't work. He has moved back in with his parents now. Nothing anybody says gets through to him, but then he is old enough to know better.

Oh in case people think I am anti-weed, I used to smoke but stopped years ago. Got no problem with people smoking, but not in my house!

Whenever my ex girlfriend's mum is nearby.

Tried it a coupla times don't really like it, so never for me. Plus I've spent half my life begging my mam and dad to give up smoking (cigs, not dope), so I figure I'd be a hypocritical bastard if I smoked.

I can't have it in the house. If i have any i just end up doing nothing.
Just on occasional nights out now.

Anyway, it kills your little sperms. Poor buggers.
They've a bad enough life as it is, stumbling about for ages trying to crawl out the end of your nob and then most of 'em die struggling on the carpet.

Every single day since I was 18. I'm now 31. My head is a mess.

*ashamed*

use to smoke it anytime it was around when i was about 18 but don't anymore. Why smoke something thats going to make me hungry all day long. I don't want to eat my life away! now if only i could get dustin to understand that (fucker spends too much money on it)

Never. Never have, I dont see the point :)

salsa spouted:
Never. Never have, I dont see the point :)

Presumably it is to take in the experience of the resulting artificially induced high. DYS?

Blimey quite a bit actually.

I find it helps me motivate myself and get things done.

D'oh!

/me never has got into it, not for the lack of trying

Biscuit - I'm with you. I've never understood why people get idle when they're stoned, I find it makes me more into doing stuff. It's not that I get more energy, I just get more inclined to bother. If I've got housework to do round the flat, I'll skin up a fat one and whistle while I work.

I also find that my aesthetic appreciation of music and films is considerably heightened by dope, so I wouldn't dream of listening to/playing music or watching a film straight. It would be shit.

Basically, smoking dope has been a habit of mine for so long now that I really couldn't imagine ever stopping. It's unthinkable. It doesn't rule my life, but it dictates it to a certain extent (I might cancel a social engagement if I'm running low and have to purchase, rather than run the horrendous risk of running out altogether). This attitude has cost me at least two girlfriends, but quite frankly I don't give a fuck. This is me - if ya don't like it, hit the road.

My life is crap - but its a teeny bit better with pot.

every day. but not in large amounts and i wouldnt say i was always "out of it" i manage to function perfectly fine at work working in a lab while stoned.

Alex the Large spouted:
...my aesthetic appreciation of music and films is considerably heightened by dope, so I wouldn't dream of listening to/playing music or watching a film straight.

Well that's it in a nutshell for me - I get incredibly emotionally involved whilst listening to music or watching certain films after a spliff or two. It's not a necessity though, although I'm not sure how good a Do Make Say Think CD would seem without medicinal 'erb; it's just a very pleasant way of spending an evening in my own company. And lordy there's been a few of them. But now I find myself in the company of a rather nice lady who doesn't indulge, and it's like hey, I don't miss it at all! Well, I do a bit...

I ahve smoked it twice in my life and ill be 42 in July :)

At the time I could have tried it (Hippy sister and partner were sleeping over, on their way to join a commune) Homer was in the Airforce and could have gotten kicked out if caught with the stuff. I was also pregnant at the time. Since then I've had enough problems with alcohol without adding drugs to my list of vices.

I've never smoked cigarettes or weed, I like the occasional beer or 10 though :)

makes me paranoid as all fuck. i'll only smoke up if i have nothing to do the next day (no work or assignments). it's odd that i'll drink alone, but don't like doing pot alone.
at any rate, i'll stick with borderline alcoholism for the time being.

Never touched it. Drugs just aren't my thing.

Well, actually, I recall when the law changed here regarding the stuff and loads of people suddenly were misguided into thinking it was legal, and the air at the arcade was thick with the smoke. I was only in there 5 minutes, and I felt shitty for days.

hmmmm...

I usually smoke 1-2 Joints per night with my missus..

Having said that, I dont seem to suffer from paranoia or laziness or hunger....

I come to work ever morning feeling fine, unless I have overdone alcohol aswell the night b4.

I HONESTLY dont understand how others feel so shitty the next day, although I tend to skin up earlier rather than later in the eve...Usually to chill after a crappy day at work.

Probably go through about 1oz per month (Between and friends !) for some perspective

Dukesy
:moo:

I don't feel too bad in the mornings, it just takes me a bit longer to wake up, and I'm often in front of a group, presenting at 9am in the morning.
I agree with biscuit and alex about all the benefits, and take it in moderation more for financial reasons than health and well-being reasons.

Having said that, if I could get half decent stuff, I'd smoke more regularly and be happier about it. At the moment, it's more of an end of the night, trawl through my best tunes and movies.

It's indepensible when I'm having a jam.

Amount wise, I probably go through a quarter to a half oz a month.

I have a puff almost daily, even if it's just a one skin.

Just out of interest, what do others smoke? All I can get at the moment is shitty skunk and I am slowly going off it. Can get the occasional bit of weed now and then but the quality varies. Now, what I really miss is a nice bit of hash. Not the fucking soapbar you get on the streets for £20 an ounce, but the soft, sweet, unadulterated shit - preferably from afghanistan.

i have my bikes to give me a buzz

i am addicted to the smell of two stroke fumes....

i had a good mate that smoked dope every day and every night... he became totally paranoid and ended up in the
local loony bin....

about 3 years ago he burried an axe in his friends skull
and now hes doing life in rampton....

they say you cant get addicted to the stuff but he was a f--ing wreck ....

i hate drugs because i have lost a few old mates who became junkies ...they died far to young...

Just out of interest, what do others smoke?

I prefer grass. Skunk is too strong for me and has makes me feel listless the next day.

I'll try again....

I prefer grass. Skunk is too strong for me and HASH makes me feel listless the next day.

zed247 spouted:
Just out of interest, what do others smoke? Now, what I really miss is a nice bit of hash. Not the fucking soapbar you get on the streets for £20 an ounce, but the soft, sweet, unadulterated shit - preferably from afghanistan.

Just crap quality rocky robin here. Although some nasty homegrown is starting to appear, as it always does in summer. That's my big rant about the drug classification laws, that it prevents decent quality shit from getting into the hands of those who need it. I think Cannabis is in the same classification as valium now. Decent quality valies isn't a problem, so why is there so much fucking cling film in my solid?

Favourite is purple haze, white widow and a nice bit of pollen.

zed247 spouted:
I have a puff almost daily, even if it's just a one skin.

Just out of interest, what do others smoke?


Round hereI find it quite easy to get hold of NICE grass and the occasional bit of skunk.

Dont use hash...that DOES make me ill !!

I occcasionally get a bit of OIL, but that is for special occasions ONLY !!!

:moo:

dukesy spouted:
Dont use hash...that DOES make me ill !!


I feel like that with the standard street hash (which is like 10% hash and 90% shit - bastard unethical dealers) but 'proper' hash I can smoke all day long.

P.S How much do you pay for oil?

Grass is always greener scenario, everybody remembers the big drowt of '96, but occasionally you get flooded with one type.
I had nothing but oil for a while, little £10 plastic packets, got so sick of it that I went back to soapy. Same thing happens with skunk and black. You get nothing but for month and you actually just want some good old fashioned solid.

magicguppy spouted:
Grass is always greener scenario, everybody remembers the big drowt of '96, but occasionally you get flooded with one type.
I had nothing but oil for a while, little £10 plastic packets, got so sick of it that I went back to soapy. Same thing happens with skunk and black. You get nothing but for month and you actually just want some good old fashioned solid.
i dare you to say that again in english !!
go on dare you !!!

Tried once or twice but as I live at home with my parents it's not a great idea for me to build up an addiction as it'll be difficult to hide.

I hear some parents don't have a problem with it, and indeed smoke themselves but I quite like my parents' disapproval of anything illegal.

An addiction?

Weed isn't addictive!

I quite like my parents' disapproval of anything illegal.

A lot of parents use this psychology and secretly aren't worried that their children are smoking weed while voicing disapproval. that way, their kids get to rebel in a harmless way and they don't have to worry too much.

My parents did not think this way.

I think reaching the mental state as a result of smoking weed is addictive (at least for me).

zed247 spouted:
I think reaching the mental state as a result of smoking weed is addictive (at least for me).

I think the expression "dependent" is more accurate (dunno if its CLINICALLY accurate !)

I must admit that I like to have a joint most nights, but if I haven't got any, then its no problem...

Having said that, if I am going out, or have stuff to do, it doesnt bother me in the slightest

:moo:

What I meant to say is being intoxicated is addictive.

Dazzla spouted:
Weed isn't addictive!

I thought Weed wasn't chemically addictive, but massively psychologically addictive?

I think anything that creates a psycho-active reaction in your brain can be classed as mentally addictive as an individual can develop dependancy on a state of mind/physical reaction, such as sex, chocolate, healthy foods etc.

I know I'm not addicted or dependant, but I can't speak for anyone else. Judging by my last post on this thread, maybe I do smoke too much :D

I used to smoke weed every day but i had to chill cos it was sending me even nuttier :) Now I smoke every day but only one or two spliffs. On my days off i 'll probably smoke five or six spliffs. I treat myself to a bit of weed evry couple of weeks but otherwise i just stick to the solids :)

zed247 spouted:
What I meant to say is being intoxicated is addictive.

You've hit the nail on the head there !!!

I think that it is, but as with most "weaknesses", it affects some more than others

:moo:

As someone who doesn't smoke weed, I only have the stereotypes in mind to put me off it and those who smoke it. Although I know it's NOT just floppy hatted Jamaicans, high school dropouts and tattooed, pierced undesirables that smoke weed, my reaction towards the drugs issue will always be as a result of those images in my mind.

So for questions such as 'would you stick with a friend who admitted he or she uses drugs?' I know I'd always be the one that says 'no I wouldn't' although just about everybody else would say they would.

I suppose I'm psychologically addicted, and I don't really care (maaaan). In the wider scheme of things, it aint such a bad habit to have.

Hash is so shit in the UK that I only smoke skunk - it gets me more wrecked. But when in Amsterdam, a nice bit of Afghan or Nepalese hash is the order of the weekend.

Dukesy - I'm interested in how you manage to go through an ounce a month by smoking only "1-2 joints a night". I use an ounce and a half a month and I usually smoke between 10 and 20 joints a day. Do you smoke 15-skinners or something?

Marley - I don't doubt that cannabis use can prompt the onset of mental illness in people who are susceptible to it anyway, but it's by no means an across-the-board reaction. I've been smoking for 13 years and I don't feel any less mentally stable than when I started (apart from having a dreadful short-term memory). It's horse for course.

Something which shocked me a bit was that every single patient I interviewed when I was doing my psychiatry rotation, had a history of long term cannabis use. I did not realise that the pattern could be this clear cut.

There could be several reasons why this is though, including the fact that cannabis use is abundant anyway.
But it has been proven that it exacerbates mental illness and depression. It induces apathy, and it has been suggested that smoking on average 20 joints a YEAR doubles your chance of mental illness, and smoking 50 joints a year means there is a fourfold chance of developing a mental illness. Not good innit.

The problem I think is that personality changes due to getting stoned all the time are of insidious onset-and are gradual and people don't always have insight into this- how do you know, for example that it hasn't affected you. It's hard to believe that taking a psychoactive substance does not have a long term effect on the brain- it's consumption of something not present physiologically in any significant amount- it is more than likely to affect you long term.

Its a matter of weighing up the odds I reckon, good points- heightened visual and auditory perception, increased apetite, finding the crappest jokes funny, relieving stress, muscle relaxant properties, or possible bad; e.g. apathy, depression, paranoia, psychosis, schizophrenia, mania.


Talking about this makes me want to have a spliff though, and isn't everything bad for you nowadays anyway.

When I was diagnosed with Crohn's disease a few months back, the consultant said it was "probably stress related". Then we had a discussion about what things can make it worse (booze, certain foods etc) and I asked him if cannabis use would exacerbate it. He looked at the floor all sheepish and muttered: "No...if anything it would help because it would make you less stressed."
Me: "Oooh, are you recommending it then, doc?!"
Him: "Well, not officially..."

Good work!

Ashez - I was depressed before I started smoking. I'm a lot less depressed when I'm stoned. Consequently, I get stoned as much as I possibly can.

marie spouted:
As someone who doesn't smoke weed, I only have the stereotypes in mind to put me off it and those who smoke it. Although I know it's NOT just floppy hatted Jamaicans, high school dropouts and tattooed, pierced undesirables that smoke weed, my reaction towards the drugs issue will always be as a result of those images in my mind.

So for questions such as 'would you stick with a friend who admitted he or she uses drugs?' I know I'd always be the one that says 'no I wouldn't' although just about everybody else would say they would.

i'm a manager in a research lab and smoke weed at work. as do others who work there. its not the drug thats the problem, its idiots using the drug whjich is the problem.

out of interest, anyone do any other drugs?

Jedichef spouted:



out of interest, anyone do any other drugs?

Such as? I don't use anything on a regular basis.
Experimented with?
Socially (once in a while)?
Daily?

Bit of a derail - Jedi, why don't you start a general drugs thread?

I once received a lung infection due to some shite that was in the hash i was smoking.
The doc prescribed me steroids. Christ, it was like being the Hulk, sudden mood swings coupled with an increase in strength.

Alex, are you just as depressed now without dope as you were before you started smoking?

I ask because i was depressed years before i started. I too found being stoned lifted that depression.

But it was still there and smoking was just a way of ignorng the problem without finding out what the root of it was.

The state you're in when high is a blissful one. So that must exist somewhere in your mind. Hash is just a shortcut to that state.

But we're all different, i just find that it doesn't agree with me as much as i'd like it to and so keep it to a minimum.
It is great for the creative urge though.

I rarely smoke pot now but I used to smoke quite a but when I dislocated my knee. The pain killers I was given had next to no affect and getting stoned helped me a lot. But this was when I was supposed to be studying for my GCSE's. I nearly universally did shite on all of them apart from art.

My former brother-in-law used to smoke it quite a lot and it really fucked up his personality. One day you'd drop in and he'd be Mr Mellow Fellow. Other days he'd be a right snarky bastard. (Maybe that was NORMAL for him?)

well its a fact that every drug destroys brain cells, some (like caffine) destroy, less. Dope (from memory) is one of the worst drugs you could do in terms of brain cell disposal.

People have had holes in their head the size of golf balls...

Old people eat hash cookies to deal with pain or cancer or whatever's getting them down, we live near this old guy who smokes it because he has cancer.... now thats a site.....

personally, i used to eat it when i was like 3 (i swear i didnt know what it was!!) My mum had a hedge of the stuff in the back yard, my nana still thinks its an "egyptian tomato"

yeah, just as with alcohol, some people can become quite aggressive when high off pot.

Grass; Beer: your in the clear

Beer; Grass: you're on your arse.

There's also:
Beer before liquor, never been sicker.

but that's confusing, because there's also, "beer after liquor, you're never sicker"
okay, back on topic (grr): anyone have a preference for bongs? personally, i find them a waste of energy.

people say dope isnt addicted but i think different.

my old friend who ended up in rampton use to smoke it every single day.
if by some chance he didnt have any he use to be totally fucked up.

dope totally fucked his life up...

personally i hate drug dealers. if anyone even skins up near
me i go off it...

but thats because i have lost at least 4 of my old friends
through over doses, most just started off smoking dope
or sniffing glue..

a woman i knew got her brains blew out by a dealer she
owed money to....

another girl set her own father on fire up on the yorks wolds,
she burnt him to death over a drug deal...
sad because she use to be a nice girl and now shes doing
life in durham nick

iv even seen parents sat smoking dope in front of there
kids..... f--ing idiots. i would put them down...

(and i am not for one second saying people on here would
do that..)

well i think that there is definitely a time and a place. certainly never when you are around kids or have kids in your care. but there is a vast difference between pot and hard drugs.

Alex the Large spouted:
.Dukesy - I'm interested in how you manage to go through an ounce a month by smoking only "1-2 joints a night". I use an ounce and a half a month and I usually smoke between 10 and 20 joints a day. Do you smoke 15-skinners or something?


Most of the time, I use cones (www.puffedz.com , say dukesy sent you !) which I roll 4 at a time cos thats whats in the box, and a teenth will normally do 8 ish joints

Ergo, 16 joints = an henry....8x16=128 which is about 3-4 per day between me and missus and odd m8s coming round !

taya : THANKS for the wise words, will remember that!


dukesy
:moo:

tweez spouted:


Alex, are you just as depressed now without dope as you were before you started smoking?



I don't know, I haven't been straight for 13 years.

marleyb spouted:


if anyone even skins up near
me i go off it...



You sound like a right bundle of laughs.

Alex,

What the prices like in London? I knew someone who came to brum to score a few oz's cheap (£120 oz, skunk) and whacked 'em out a £10/gram in London (£280 per oz). Curently, the rates are £15-20 a henry (although you'd be lucky to get three grams, bastard dealers).

i am a bundle of laughs alex,

:)

buy yourself a vespa and you can come to the venlo rally in holland with me in july.

10 days of traveling europe, camping under the stars,
meeting loads of great mates, swimming in the river mass,
dancing to bad manners ,

i think youd be to busy having a great time to even think about smoking dope..

like i said, iv had two many good mates fuck up through smoking dope and taking drugs thats why i really cant stand
such stuff..

I have no dealer. Someone send me some. Thanks.

Extra credits for managing to get me stoned.

how many credits?

No good stuff here, the prices prove that. I pay £40 an ounce and it's a rip off.

i pay £40-£50 an ounce but its quality stuff. i can get it cheaper but i'd rather pay more for decent stuff.

i always thought england would have really good pot. just hang around one of the tourist hostels....
anyways, here you basically need to go to a downtown park to get good pot.

zed - £120 an oz sounds about right round here.


marleyb spouted:

buy yourself a vespa and you can come to the venlo rally in holland with me in july...i think youd be to busy having a great time to even think about smoking dope..




The words "Holland" and "no dope smoking" don't sit too well with me, I'm afraid, but thanks for the offer :D

dogbomb spouted:
I have no dealer.

Neither do I. And look at my photo. Clearly something is not right here.

Someone send me some. Especially if it's some of Jedi's intriguing "decent stuff".

maybe it's b/c you have a slight narc look to you ;) ?

staysinvegas spouted:
maybe it's b/c you have a slight narc look to you ;) ?

Break my cover and I'm taking you down.

stoke_fields spouted:


Neither do I. And look at my photo. Clearly something is not right here.

Someone send me some. Especially if it's some of Jedi's intriguing "decent stuff".

by decent i mean it gets you more stoned than other stuff. i'm happy wi th it but cant say everyone would be.

Jedichef spouted:
i pay £40-£50 an ounce but its quality stuff. i can get it cheaper but i'd rather pay more for decent stuff.


Bloody hell....where is "here"

I am pleased that I just found a new "dealer" who knocks reasonable grass out at £140 per oz (and i buy 2-3 oz at a time)

i pay thirty quid for an oz of hash but i can also get pollen for sixty. I pay between £110 to £130 for weed depending on the dealer/ quality