Since as the new MH.com will forbid me from defending any celebrity I like (i.e. the Man United players), I thought I'd ask everyone why my beloved reds are hated by so many football fans and then give my response to the reasons. You never know, maybe my counter-argument will leave you with a different opinion on United!
I'm sure there are many reasons why they are hated and believe it or not, there are some things I don't like about the club aswell.....
So fire away!

man utd are not my teams local rivals so why the hell would i hate them ?

i hate scunthorpe / grimsby and lincoln.

i dont understand all this "we hate man utd" shit

In no particular order:-

1) the legions of "fans" that they have that have absolutely no connection to Manchester but declare themselves to be diehard fans eg people who only follow clubs that are successful rather than their local club, most of the Phillipines, Thailand, etc.

2) that whinging ungracious clock-watching cunt of a manager. Not that this implies that he isn't a good manager. He's proved that at Aberdeen and Man United. But he's a horrible individual.

3) Eamonn Holmes.

4) the relentless arse-licking from sections of the media eg Eamonn Dunphy, Pat Crerand, Clive Tyldesley.

5) the whole Rio Ferdinand saga where rather than just admit they were in error they started trying to throw their weight about and bought their player a much longer ban.

6) Roy Keane

Theres only one thing more annoying about all of the above,and thats a Man Utd 'fan' in denial about all of the above.

The only reason people object to Man U having such a wide fan base is because their own team is simply not good enough to attract a wide fan base..so stop bitching and take a moment of introspection to see how shit your team is instead of deflecting your disappointment onto successful teams.

The only reason people object to Man U having such a wide fan base is because their own team is simply not good enough to attract a wide fan base..so stop bitching and take a moment of introspection to see how shit your team is instead of deflecting your disappointment onto successful teams.

Its an objection that people have been raising when Man Utd went decades without winning the league, went thirty years between European Cup wins, dropped into Division 2, etc. It's fuck all to do with them being successful.

A moment of introspection to see how shit my team is just isnt enough,in fact an eternity of introspection to see how shit my team is would barely do it justice,but that isnt really the point,Ive paid my dues,watched my team lose on a regular basis both home and away over the past 20 years or so,though rarely get the chance to see how their developement into a mediocre 1st division team is going due to business commitments,but yes it is very annoying when Man Utd fans,and it is nearly always Man Utd fans,start gloating about 'their' team,when they`ve never been anywhere near Manchester,sorry I mean Salford.Though looking at your post you`re going down the 'ur jus jelouz' route.
All together now 'Are you nicola roberts in disguise?....are you nicola roberts in disguise?'

The only reason people object to Man U having such a wide fan base is because their own team is simply not good enough to attract a wide fan base..so stop bitching and take a moment of introspection to see how shit your team is instead of deflecting your disappointment onto successful teams.

No.

the reason I object to ManU having 'such a wide fan base' is that their existence as a football team is now secondary to their existence as a media and merchandising organisation. The team on the pitch are now a function of the club and plc, not the other way round, as it should be. Peter Kenyon was the architect of the 'genius' strategfy that saw ManU make kits in sweatshops in South-East Asia for pennies, sell them in other parts of SE Asia for forty quid upwards a piece and spend the money on selling players for a fraction of the cost that he bought them six months previously.

Unfortunately, this strategy has worked so well that just about every other club in England (and probably Scotland too) now sees this as the sole route to success.

Perversely, by a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy, this has now become true.

However, I don't really hate ManU any more. I think they're going to get their come-uppance soon.

I really fucking hate Chelsea though.

The more successfull the team, the more it is hated. People just got bored of Man Utd winning all the bloody time, so it was easy to moan about it. I've seen on football message boards that the level of hatred for Man Utd is now in decline with Arsenal's popularity on the slide, and suprise suprise, Chelsea's too.

And Gonzo, people don't object about the wide fan base, it's the silly fools who pretend they're die hard supporters when in fact they know nothing about the club, hardly follow it, and on the whole live in Essex/Surrey.

1) the legions of "fans" that they have that have absolutely no connection to Manchester but declare themselves to be diehard fans eg people who only follow clubs that are successful rather than their local club, most of the Phillipines, Thailand, etc.
2) that whinging ungracious clock-watching cunt of a manager. Not that this implies that he isn't a good manager. He's proved that at Aberdeen and Man United. But he's a horrible individual.
3) Eamonn Holmes.
4) the relentless arse-licking from sections of the media eg Eamonn Dunphy, Pat Crerand, Clive Tyldesley.
5) the whole Rio Ferdinand saga where rather than just admit they were in error they started trying to throw their weight about and bought their player a much longer ban.
6) Roy Keane

Here we go.......

1) I admit, glory supporters are nothing but a burden for true Mancunian United fans (there are thousands of manc United fans, and it's fucking stupid to say there aren't any, which is what many people do. They are the local club for West Manchester and surrounding districts, a very highly-populated area.) Thai and Phillipino fans tend to support western teams because they have no decent ones of their own. Liverpool are actually more popular in Thailand btw.

2) Ferguson can be irritating at times, but Arsene Wenger is just as whingy and ungracious when things don't go his way. The fact that he's a great manager is ALL that needs to be said.

3)Eamonn Holmes is harmless and Irish, and the Irish tend to follow english teams.

4) I don't know who Eamonn Dunphy is. Pat Crerand won the European Cup with United and played for them for over ten years, so no suprise he doesn't criticise them much, as he's probably a fan.
Clive Tyldesley actually said that Arsenal's recent side are the best to ever win the premiership. Not exactly flattering to his United eh?

5) United have admitted they were in error, but an 8-month ban for taking a drugs test 36 hours late is ludicrous. Rio obviously never took drugs and shouldn't have been banned for that long.

6) Keano is an ace midfielder who has now shedded his aggression

Theres only one thing more annoying about all of the above,and thats a Man Utd 'fan' in denial about all of the above.

Like I give a shit.......

Like I give a shit.......

What is the point of this thread then?

I don't hate Man Utd by the way, but I do think Roy Keane is a nasty minded little shit.

Peter Kenyon was the architect of the 'genius' strategy that saw ManU make kits in sweatshops in South-East Asia for pennies, sell them in other parts of SE Asia for forty quid upwards a piece and spend the money on selling players for a fraction of the cost that he bought them six months previously.


And that's why I'm glad the cunt is now at Chelski. Kenyon is also responsible for having 'Football Club' removed from the United badge. It was also his idea to bring Veron to United. Smart move there, Kenyon!

Man Utd`s recent decline seems to have coincided with less and less people within Football giving a fuck about what Alex Ferguson thinks or wants,though its no coincidence.His recent moaning about Ronaldo playing in this years Olympics seems to have fallen on deaf ears,and is quite honestly laughable,he has less influence over those around him,especially those in decision making positions,people seem to have finally learnt they can say "shut the fuck up fergie you old cunt and get back in your pram".

Man U fans are arrogant!! At least that's why I used to dislike them (I don't any more!!).

I dunno, Man united fans in the 90's used to be too cocky surrounding their success at the time.

3)Eamonn Holmes is harmless and Irish, and the Irish tend to follow english teams.


He's one of the most irrittating twats on the telly. His never ending witterings about "man yoo" elevate him to supertwat status


4) I don't know who Eamonn Dunphy is. Pat Crerand won the European Cup with United and played for them for over ten years, so no suprise he doesn't criticise them much, as he's probably a fan.
Clive Tyldesley actually said that Arsenal's recent side are the best to ever win the premiership. Not exactly flattering to his United eh?


Dunphy is a Man Utd apologist that's been writing in various papers for years and was ghost-writer on the Keane biography.

Crerand used (is?) a contributor to some local radio stations and never fails to mention Man Utd at every opportunity eg
"So Pat, what do you think will happen in today's Stockport vs Crewe game"
"Well, I think it will be a clash of styles between Crewe's passing game and Stockport's more direct approach, but at the end of the day I'll plump for a win for Utd"

So Tyldsley admitted that Arsenal are a good side. Shockereoony! He'll still be creaming himself next time he commentates at Old Trafford.

Oh, and one thing I somehow missed in my original list -

The fact that the club and fans refer to themselves as United as if they are the first and/or only club to come up with that name.

the man utd world wide fan base goes back along way

first > the munich air crash won man utd much sympathy world wide and lots of fans started to "follow man utd"

man utd where the first brit club to play in europe even though the football
league was against it.

bobby charlton and later george best two players admired all over the world.

man utd playing many friendlys across the planet making new fans..

glory fans > well to all true man utd fans , glory hunters buy man utd shirts ect and that makes man utd more cash which makes man utd a rich club who can then buy the top players so glory hunters help man utd.

all top teams have fans from all over the country. hell most newcastle fans come from gateshead / and all over the north east area...

man utd have a very loyal fan base even when they won fuck all for years they got top crowds and even when they played in div 2 those fans still followed man utd.

i follow hull city win or lose. but i sure dont mind if fans from outside of hull
start to follow hull, more fans = more money = more success...

thousands of man utd fans live in manchester..

pishmaster > man utds decline ? what decline ??
never been outside the top 4 in the premier league ???
thats f---king brilliant !

lapafrax > after 25 years of winning next to f--k all no wonder man utd fans
got cocky when the started to win things...

fergie moans and moans when man utd lose . thats what all managers do if they love the club there at... if peter taylor doesnt moan when hull lose i would want to know why he didnt ...

anyway , me ? i just dont figure why so many hate man utd ?

oo and i do not support man utd .

man utd where the first brit club to play in europe

I think you'll find that was Hibs

I dont hate Man Utd. They are a superb team and usually the people that "hate" them are the jealous people.

As a matter of fact i dont hate any team even my so called rivals Tottenham

Marley b...
Are you going to tomorrow nights pre-season friendly?
If so, can you report back what my team played like?
Ta
The Citizen

lapafrax > after 25 years of winning next to f--k all no wonder man utd fans
got cocky when the started to win things...

When Liverpool dominated in the 70's and 80's, scouse fans weren't as arrogant!

Marleyb's post at the top of this page is superb. I've said all of what he said loads of times on MH.com, but I was bound to, since as I'm a Man United fan. Nice to hear it from a neutral perspective......

People dont like Man U because they are successful. It happened with Liverpool when they were at the top of their game and winning everything.

Hopefully everyone will hate Blackburn soon because we will be winning everything (I think not)

wee dougie > hibs played in europe before man united did .

ahh i learn something that i never knew

8)

I don`t like Man U and I always shout for their opponents no matter who they are.

I can`t really give a 100% exact reason why. Lots of little things really which have been covered in the posts above.

Fingers crossed that their slide into mediocrity continues in the next few years.

Its a combination of smug 'fans',Fergie,Roy Keane,several other players,the board of directors,their attitude to smaller clubs and their 'money before the welfare of Football in general' attitude ,but mainly the last two reasons,Man Utd arent exclusively hated for some of these,but this thread isnt about those other clubs .

John Virgo.

Shane Ritchie

Who did the fat spoilt kid in your class support?

Odds on it was Man Utd.

During my student years in Manc. I met a lot of City fans who hated Man U to an almost psychopathic degree. Part of this was just rivalry, of course, but they did take umbrage at Man U being seen as the major representative of Manchester and its people when, at their heartfelt insistence, a true Mancunian (born there, presumably) supports City. Something to do with legacy and location, apparently. Was this the initial seed of hatred that others took on board?

Oddly, the only major Man U fan I knew was one of my tutors - and he tended to keep quiet about it.

Angus Deaton

[QUOTE=comababy]During my student years in Manc. I met a lot of City fans who hated Man U to an almost psychopathic degree. Part of this was just rivalry, of course, but they did take umbrage at Man U being seen as the major representative of Manchester and its people when, at their heartfelt insistence, a true Mancunian (born there, presumably) supports City. Something to do with legacy and location, apparently.[QUOTE]

I don't know where the myth that 'true mancunians' all support City comes from. Manchester is a HUGE city with almost 1 Million people living there.
As someone who was born in Manchester, and lived there for 5 years, Manchester is very, very red, and although City have a decent fanbase (decent in the sense that they have a large number of fans), MUFC is by far the more popular club, especially in the west of the city. I'd say a 60& United, 40% City split minimum..........

what was it the Chelsea fans sang to the visiting Man Utd supporters last season - to the tune of Guantanamero - "Live round the corner, you only live round the corner" ......

i really hate man utd simple their fans are complete twats i only know about 3 people that have supported man utd since young rest are knob heads don't know a fuck bout football and just live away from manchester man utd scum die lol had to say that leeds 4 life

At least you don't have watch them beating you anymore, what is it now 23rd position in the Championship with 10 points from 13 games?

Now you know four people, I've supported them since the 1960's although I haven't been to Old Trafford very often in the past 40 odd years.

3 words.

Gary Fucking Neville

iman utd scum die lol had to say that leeds 4 life

I've said it before, i'll say it again:

:twat:

prawn sarnie eaters

Man U suck ass, woot!

Man U suck ass, woot!

They can suck his ass. He's the man who struck the free kick that makes them need a point against Benfica to qualify.

http://www.soccer.com/Images/Catalog/ProductImages/300/30312.JPG

Estou sempre aqui,
Para lutar por ti,
Benfica eu te Amarei
Por ti cantarei sempre até ao fim

Por isso vou-te apoiar
Sempre de coração
Diabos nunca te falham
Benfica és a nossa Paixão

SLB...
SLB...
SLB SLB SLB!!!
GLORIOSO! SLB!
GLORIOSO SLB...!

Estamos sempre convosco
Vamos a todo o lado
Queremos ganhar
Não paramos de cantar
Força Benfica Allez
Força Benfica Allez
Força Benfica Allez
É o Benfica Allez Allez

Allez allez
Força Benfica allez allez
Força Benfica allez allez
Força Benfica allez allez
Allez allez
Força Benfica allez allez
Força Benfica allez allez
Força Benfica allez allez

Somos os Ultras mais fieis
E mais unidos de Portugal
Não desistimos
Vamos á luta
DV orgulho nacional
Allez allez
Allez allez
Allez allez, allez allez allez
Allez allez allez allez allez

Ai estes são os Ultras do Benfica
Primeiros a nascer
Odiamos os tripeiros
Queremos ver o Porto a arder.

Glorificaremos o teu nome
Gritaremos sempre por ti
Queremos que sejas campeão
Allez, allez,
Allez Benfica Allez
Allez allez allez
Allez Allez
Allez Allez
Força Benfica Allez Allez (bis)
Força Benfica Allez allez allez
Allez allez allez (bis)
Allez allez allez

Benfica é nosso
Benfica é nosso
Benfica é nosso e há-de ser
Benfica é nosso e há-de ser
Benfica é nosso até morrer

Dare to hazard a guess as to who I'll be cheering for?

Scunthorpe?

TBH, I think I hate Chelsea more now.

mr mnem supports Rangers and event he wanted Celtic to win

Thanks lads, all your cheering for Benfica had the desired effect and we won 3-1. Group stages now.

TBH, I think I hate Chelsea more now.

So I'm not the only one praying that Macclesfield get lucky then?

So I'm not the only one praying that Macclesfield get lucky then?
I think every neutral in the country would want Macc to win. I certainly do but then I have a slight bias towards the Silkmen (my Godson's Dad is from there and is a huge fan.)

The good news is that Ince will be eligible to play so could make an appearance which would be fantastic.

Here's a cheery thought from a Macc fan:

Everyone here, apart from yours truly, seems to think that Macc will get thumped and should be glad of the £300K+ we'll get.

My thinking........................ Danny Swailes has his elbow in Drogba's ear a couple of times on a cold, wet afternoon and he starts thinking of the warm dressing room, Allan Navarro and Jamie Tolley put in a few crunching tackles on Lampard and Joe Cole who vanish to the fringes of the game as they don't want to get injured for the Champs Lge. John Terry's thoughts, in the 88th minute, turn to testing the rear suspension of hisBentley with some young lady and Matty McNeil pops in to put the ball in the net. 1-0. Simple really !!!!!!

And Man City at home in the 4th round. Not too much to ask for, surely ???

I despise Paul Ince (mouthy twat who posed in a M an Utd shirt while still a West Ham player) so I'm pretty neutral on this match.

it would have been better if chelsea had to play in some tiny ground.

I despise Paul Ince (mouthy twat who posed in a M an Utd shirt while still a West Ham player) so I'm pretty neutral on this match.
My hatred for Paul Ince is tempered by a dislike of Chelsea and an interest in Macc.

TBH, I think I hate Chelsea more now.

To be fair, loads of the Man United fairweather fans will now support Chelsea.

HAHA SO IM FINALLY ON THIS POOR EFFORT OF A THREAD.
Cant beleive some of the bullshit been wrote about scum on this thread. I am a diehard leeds fan. Yes before you start we have been relagated to div 3 but fuck it i will follow my team to the unibond because in years to come i will will once once again watch them taking on the cream of europe. And besides no club except liverpool equal as a club and supporters so fair play to you scousers.
I love leeds as much as i hate scum and vice versa. Many reasons on this page are valid and i agree with but the reason i hate them is- ever since i saw this club felt this hatred in my heart and to this day it hasnt gone. Every time i see a red shirt i see red and wouldnt think twice about knocking seven shades of shite out of the cunt wearing it then burning the shirt on or off the scum bastards back. Now before anyone thinks im just a stubborn little cunt listen - maybe i am but i am a patriotic englishman and a football fan so this is my god given right.
I will never stop hating scum till my dying day and fucking wishing for the disease of the lepers to be inflicted on any fan or sympathiser. Bored now neways i could talk for hours but cant be arsed typing for some internet dweeb to read.
In summation Ther was an air disaster some fifty years ago,
busby and his babes lay dying in the snow,
picking thru the wreckage and pulling out the dead
there lay duncan edwards without his fucking head
fucking hate you and wish alan smith would have broken his neck insted of his leg the fucking cunt

and breathe....

loveleedshatema
about scum... i hate scum... off the scum... hating scum...
Are you Jeremy Kyle?

LOL that post deserves an award pmsl

wouldnt think twice about knocking seven shades of shite out of the cunt wearing it then burning the shirt on or off the scum bastards back. Now before anyone thinks im just a stubborn little cunt listen - maybe i am but i am a patriotic englishman and a football fan so this is my god given right.

So can we do the same to you then?
Since when has it been your God given right to assault someone and set them on fire? just for liking a football team? I must have missed that one in the bible.

I'm not prejudiced against Manchester United, I hate anything and everything about football whatever the team.

Rugby, that's the game.

Yeh, all them big muscley men grabbing each other and throwing themselves on the ground in the mud.:vhappy:

Yeh, all them big muscley men grabbing each other and throwing themselves on the ground in the mud.:vhappy:

Better than all those "soft lad" footballers crying if they fall over and misss a goal. inconsolable if they get their hair messed up. Pansies.:gay:

Pint of piss anyone?

HAHA SO IM FINALLY ON THIS POOR EFFORT OF A THREAD.
Cant beleive some of the bullshit been wrote about scum on this thread. I am a diehard leeds fan. Yes before you start we have been relagated to div 3 but fuck it i will follow my team to the unibond because in years to come i will will once once again watch them taking on the cream of europe. And besides no club except liverpool equal as a club and supporters so fair play to you scousers.
I love leeds as much as i hate scum and vice versa. Many reasons on this page are valid and i agree with but the reason i hate them is- ever since i saw this club felt this hatred in my heart and to this day it hasnt gone. Every time i see a red shirt i see red and wouldnt think twice about knocking seven shades of shite out of the cunt wearing it then burning the shirt on or off the scum bastards back. Now before anyone thinks im just a stubborn little cunt listen - maybe i am but i am a patriotic englishman and a football fan so this is my god given right.
I will never stop hating scum till my dying day and fucking wishing for the disease of the lepers to be inflicted on any fan or sympathiser. Bored now neways i could talk for hours but cant be arsed typing for some internet dweeb to read.
In summation Ther was an air disaster some fifty years ago,
busby and his babes lay dying in the snow,
picking thru the wreckage and pulling out the dead
there lay duncan edwards without his fucking head
fucking hate you and wish alan smith would have broken his neck insted of his leg the fucking cunt

well said man

HAHA SO IM FINALLY ON THIS POOR EFFORT OF A THREAD.
I am a diehard leeds fan. Yes before you start we have been relagated to div 3 but fuck it i will follow my team to the unibond because in years to come i will will once once again watch them taking on the cream of europe.

fuck me some of them hav an imagination

rite im a utd fan n yer we have glory hunters but who can blame them they dont no any better

i no everything isnt great about man u and our history but i wouldnt support another club in the country coz its in me blood generation after generation after generation of true mancs. to be honest i love people who hate us coz they talk utter shite and make me laugh.

so answer me this who in there right mind is glad that there manager wasnt the one to buy ronaldo and how many everton fans wouldnt take rooney back in a shot

the most deverstating two players in the country, n u can stick drogbar up ur arse, n u can stick gerrard up ur arse. n henry 2 oops never mind eh arsene

so fuck all u n come back wen ur good enough to hate u-n-i-t-e-d

I think you just helped answer the question...

if i was everton i wouldnt want rooney back,hes shit

Don't most real Manchurians support Man City?

HAHA SO IM FINALLY ON THIS POOR EFFORT OF A THREAD.
Cant beleive some of the bullshit been wrote about scum on this thread. I am a diehard leeds fan. Yes before you start we have been relagated to div 3 but fuck it i will follow my team to the unibond because in years to come i will will once once again watch them taking on the cream of europe. And besides no club except liverpool equal as a club and supporters so fair play to you scousers.
I love leeds as much as i hate scum and vice versa. Many reasons on this page are valid and i agree with but the reason i hate them is- ever since i saw this club felt this hatred in my heart and to this day it hasnt gone. Every time i see a red shirt i see red and wouldnt think twice about knocking seven shades of shite out of the cunt wearing it then burning the shirt on or off the scum bastards back. Now before anyone thinks im just a stubborn little cunt listen - maybe i am but i am a patriotic englishman and a football fan so this is my god given right.
I will never stop hating scum till my dying day and fucking wishing for the disease of the lepers to be inflicted on any fan or sympathiser. Bored now neways i could talk for hours but cant be arsed typing for some internet dweeb to read.
In summation Ther was an air disaster some fifty years ago,
busby and his babes lay dying in the snow,
picking thru the wreckage and pulling out the dead
there lay duncan edwards without his fucking head
fucking hate you and wish alan smith would have broken his neck insted of his leg the fucking cunt

I'll wager, kind sir, that you have been imbibing heavily the Lambrini beverage since the moment you arose from your slumber nine fucking piss soaked hours before.

I don't know shit about football, but Hex says I'm supposed to cheer for Sheffield Wednesday.

So...Go Owls...I guess...

:broken:

In my opinion, You support who you support and that's the only reason you need. People who purport to really, really HATE a team, be it Man U, chelski, Newcastle(spit!) heh heh, Really need to take a long hard look at themselves, It's a football team, they have never, to my knowledge, started a war, killed thousands of people, destroyed the continuity of the timeline or enslaved civilisations, And, as much as I love my team, they are at the end of the day, a football team.

cant believe that man utd fans and some others say chelsea bought the title when they won and they havent spent this season and man utd are the team that are splashing out,if man utd win it this season then they will have bought it but nobody will think so.

Since as the new MH.com will forbid me from defending any celebrity I like (i.e. the Man United players), I thought I'd ask everyone why my beloved reds are hated by so many football fans and then give my response to the reasons. You never know, maybe my counter-argument will leave you with a different opinion on United!
I'm sure there are many reasons why they are hated and believe it or not, there are some things I don't like about the club aswell.....
So fire away!


Man U are not hated, they are much loved across the country. Especially in Liverpool.

"who the fuck are man united"

man u , arn't so much hated ,as they are a non entity in most peoples opinion.

99.4% of people have there own teams to worry about without pondering about the self-importance of Man U ,Arsenal & god forbid Chelsea and the ilk

I'm off to watch Rugby Town tommorow and the last team i will give a shite about are man u , whilst Rugby are struggling in the relegation zone of the BGB Premier division.