I watched most of this tonight, although I forgot it was on despite all the hype and personal appearances, and missed the first 15 minutes.

What I saw seemed excellent, and already it has me hiding behind the couch like the 7 year old I was when Tom Baker was the incarnation. Of all the things to have as a first monster, shop window dummies are the stuff of my childhood nightmares. And, despite my mockery of said person, Billie Piper's actually pretty convincing. I forgot she was Billie Piper for most of the time.

Anyone else see? Thoughts?

I tried to start a thread before it came on, but I've been having computer problems this week.

Mr Mnem and I watched it this evening and actually we quite enjoyed it. I was fuinny and a bit lame in that way that the originals were. I think we'll be watching it regularly (cos we are sad and never go out on a Saturday)

I thought it was excellent. I've always been a fan of Christopher Eccleston, and yeah, Billie Piper wasn't bad at all.

Looking forward to seeing the Daleks :D

:stupid:

I think I might have to quite fancy Christopher Eccleston for a while. I loved the way they explained his accent. "They have north on other planets, you know..."

(cos we are sad and never go out on a Saturday)
don't worry mnem, you're in good company :D

i was happy with it, it stuck fairly well with the "feel" of the originals that i remember - slightly rubbish and/or tongue in cheek at times but overalll very watchable in a "ripping yarn" sort of way

the walking shop dummies brought it all back to me tho, i remember being so scared of Dr.Who as a kid that i was scared of basil brush...merely becuase it was on immediately before Dr.Who, and the sigth of basil brush meant that in 25 mins i was gonna have the bejesus scared out of me yet again

We couldn't decide whether the dummies reminded us more of a kraftwerk or Sophie Ellis Bextor video

Or just like Sophie Ellis Bextor ;)

I watched it, and I thought it rocked. I never liked it when I was little, but this is cool.

It was ok....dunno if ill continue to watch it though.

But it definately kept that camp sense that the originals had.

I thgought is was worth every peny of my licence fee. Love3d it from start to end.
The tacky plot ,together with the special effects,made me get my pillow out and hide behind it ,especially when that plastic hand appeared.
Fucking excellent. 9/10

Must've seen a different Doctor Who to me. The one I saw was largely awful: dire FX and tacky photography, no real tension or mystery, and the sense that no-one really knew quite how to pitch it. The two leads were okay, pretty good in fact, but the rest of the cast (all three of them) seemed embarrassed and out of place. All it did was remind you of why it was ditched in the first place.

Oh, come on, comababy. Its the best thing thats been on saturday night for ages.It wasn't meant to be the Matrix.

I've always been a fan. This one seems to be no exception!

I was a bit concerned about the young and dynamic Eccleston and that tart Billie Piper but they both seemed to fill their roles beautifully.

I think when Mr "brand new customers only" was showing the photos it would've been neat, for old time's sake, to have used photos of old Whos... but the way they connected it all with modern stuff such as the internet is excellent.

And as usual, whilst it's a bit tongue-in-cheek (the burping bin hahaha) they came up with a fairly unique idea that kept me on the edge of my seat. Love it.

Im not convinced I should have let Munch watch it, but she couldnt take her eyes off it. She'll probably have shop window dummy nightmares too now. It'll be all my fault. But she was loving it!

I liked the burping bin. That was ace, and I love also how they added the modern touches to bring it up to date. I think Russell Davies is an awesome writer anyway. I do have really high hopes for the rest of the series based on this episode though.

we have to move on , but Dr Who is /part of our heritage ,and I think we hit some buttons tonight.
Uber ,I think Munch will be Ok.They seem to be less affected by walking mannaquins than we probably will be.

It was the headless tray hand man that I thought she might have more problems with... Certainly wont be the wheely bin, shes used to dragging me off ours.

the headless one/ on his waY to amarillo,with the Dr trotting around with his head
but sweet Marie
must have an opinion.

Oh I loved this. I was a serious fanatic as a child ( Tom Baker was my man....though got to admit it did get a little poor towards the end of the original series).It was different yet still the same!!!!Still a children's thing with adult appeal , nice to know it gave out a few elements that children will go scurrying to the back of the sofa. Shame you missed the beginning , they have restored the credit sequence to something with that whirling claustrophic effect in parts . Did seem a bit crammed though even if longer than the old format. The children thing I am sad . I think I very well may be.


Diddly dum , diddly dum , diddly dum , WOOOOUUUUUU WUUUU WUUUU......

I don't really watch tv any more else I'd have taken a look. When I was a kid I was frightened out of my wits by the daleks and that cleaners bin which swallowed people up if they peered inside it. Think it was the Tom Baker days.

But it definately kept that camp sense that the originals had.

My words exactly! Ecclestone was suprisingly upbeat and chirpy, I was expecting a fairly morose Dr, especially after Paul McGann.
Entertaining enough, finally with the budget it needed all along.

i enjoyed it. it was a bit lame and i didnt find it scary at all but i enjoyed it nonetheless.

Oh I loved this. I was a serious fanatic as a child ( Tom Baker was my man....though got to admit it did get a little poor towards the end of the original series).It was different yet still the same!!!!Still a children's thing with adult appeal , nice to know it gave out a few elements that children will go scurrying to the back of the sofa. Shame you missed the beginning , they have restored the credit sequence to something with that whirling claustrophic effect in parts . Did seem a bit crammed though even if longer than the old format. The children thing I am sad . I think I very well may be.


Diddly dum , diddly dum , diddly dum , WOOOOUUUUUU WUUUU WUUUU......


Dya know what I was most impressed with? That the tardis made exactly the same noise as it always did. I think they had to cram a lot into this one because they had to get Billie Piper in the Tardis and also kill some baddies with shotguns in their fingers. Although I was curious about that bit, I can buy the living plastic, but to suddenly develop finger guns? Did that get explained?

I know that last sentence is ludicrous, but thats what makes Who Who.

Your sincerely, Mrs Owl.

The point is uber ,is that if we question why ,it becomes less interesting.
It is ,and thats all.

Must admit I didnt question any of it, just sucked it up like a good un ;) :troll:

I thought it was great - really good Saturday morning pictures fun!

Loved the bit with the London Eye.

Got a bit stupid with all the fembots near the end but then it's not supposed to be taken that seriously eh?

Did anyone else notice the shocking continuity fluff where Rose's mum was cowering against a black cab and just about to be shot, then when it was all over she was cowering against a London bus?

fucksocks
missed it
and bbc twatting 3, who normally repeat everything constantly, showed it last night, and i missed that too

A small ripple in the fabric of space-time caused by the massive energy dispensation of the plastic activation signal turned the cab into a bus. Now stop nitpicking! :D

fucksocks
missed it
and bbc twatting 3, who normally repeat everything constantly, showed it last night, and i missed that too

Saw it last night. Was excellant. Still had cheap and nasty feel about it, Eccleston was ace, and like minxy, that same noise as before.


Cant wait for next one :D

Did anyone else notice the shocking continuity fluff where Rose's mum was cowering against a black cab and just about to be shot, then when it was all over she was cowering against a London bus?

There was no error, she was at first next to the cab and then you see her run to the bus which was just next to it! I know Ive got it here
:P

Pointless fact

The noise the tardis makes is actually a recording of some keys being dropped in water and then super slowed down !!

Told you it was pointless hehe

I thought they said on that documentary the week before that they took the back off a piano and ran an old penny down the string thingies, or something similar to that?

well thats what i read a while back !!

i dunno then :\

There was no error, she was at first next to the cab and then you see her run to the bus which was just next to it! I know Ive got it here
:P

Oh I've been rumbled - it's pretty obvious I was hiding behind the sofa at that point then, isn't it?

:pac2:

Quick google out of curiosity... we were both half-right, you with the keys and me with the piano :)

Source: http://www.answers.com/topic/tardis-1

The distinctive sound of this dematerialization/rematerialization effect, a cyclic wheezing, groaning noise, was originally created in the BBC Radiophonic Workshop by Brian Hodgson running his keys along the strings of an old, gutted piano.

Of course, he may well have followed by taking those keys and dropping them into water for a different TARDIS sound effect, like the computer or something like that.

well Im sure some bright bod will furnish us with mp3's and avi's, I could but I cant be arsed

I love Dr. Who. I love its campy tacky feel. I love the fact that people (other people) take it so seriously.

It's a great triumph of substance (however cockeyed) over style.

Romana was a hottie.

Personally, I felt the graphics were awesome, the doctor was great, billie was ok but the story was lacking. They tried to keep the first story contained to one episode and it showed. I will still be watching though because the next ones should get better apparently...

First episodes are always "get up to speed" and can seem disjointed for that reason. I think the rest will only improve on an auspicious start.

This doctor is definately my favourite for one reason... his crazyiness outloud that is almost like what goes on in my head. I had to laugh over the bit with Billie's boyfriend and the way she thought he kept forgetting him.

Oh oh and I loved the bin scene... nicely gooey.

I have to say ive been watching a few sneak peeks at up coming episodes and by the looks of things everything gets rather good....maybe !!

At any rate the CGI looks miles more professional.

I might just give the next few a chance

:)

Good news, I see the beeb have commissioned a second series.

Yet to confirm Sir Ecclestone as Dr though. He doesnt like to get stuck...

Isn't he that last one? I remember something about there being a fixed number of times the timelord can regenerate until he dies for good. Unless they've already explained that away :)

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds20311.html

Eccleston has quit.

/me is deafened by sound of Salsa's heart breaking.

Hes promised to do the Christmas Special though! YAY!

Well then, he must have infinite regenerations ;) Excellent way of keeping something running for so long - better idea than something like Blake's 7 where the lead character who the show was actually named after quit after the second series.

Wonder if that means Billie has to quit or if she'll continue on.

I have read somewhere that Billie is staying on.

Chris Evans for doctor who 2?

That would be worth watching.

Its good to see a modern day remake staying true to the campness of the 1st. I mourned the passing of the camp silver robots in the terrible remake of Battlestar Galactica. This is much better.They could have had a high tech baddy, but instead they stayed true to the low budget ethos of the original. Evil manequins, spot on, what's next, diabolical crisp packets?

I'm not sure about Ecclestone though, the doctor seemed so much more sophisticated in my day, perhaps I've just grown up?

Perhaps Ecclestone doesn't like panto, which the Beeb and the media are fast turning this into.

Oh no it isn't!

<giggles, exits stage left>

<audience> "Oh, yes it is!"

Eddie Izzard was metioned on the radio earlier, now THAT would be a cool Dr Who. (Along with Sean Pertwee, could be an idea)


Still think Richard E. Grant would be the best ever.

Apparently someone on Radio Merseyside suggested Ken Dodd this morning. :))

Someone at the Beeb website suggested Jerry Sadowitz.

Leering at Piper, swearing, plus card tricks = brilliant!

I cringe at some of the suggestions :))

Except Ken Dodd, that wouldn't be a bad idea (he's still alive?!)

Oh yes, live and well and living with the diddymen in Knotty Ash.

It's a great triumph of substance (however cockeyed) over style.

That may be.. and I've never seen 'Doctor Who', but the awful production values of British shows like 'Absolutely Fabulous' and 'Fawlty Towers' (while obviously cases of 'triumph of substance over style') were so distracting that I couldn't enjoy whatever substance they had to offer. I absolutely hated 'Absolutely Fabulous'... but I have only seen 'Fawlty Towers' once, and that was ten years ago or so; perhaps I should give that one another try.

You sir need to improve your taste ;-) Absolutely Fabulous is class :D I had heard about about Chris' departure and it did make me wonder about the earlier comment over the number of lifes of the doctor.

I wonder if he reads this site and that helped him decide not to get trapped in the role ?

I can't stand Ab Fab either, but that's because of the screaming noisy hysterical women like some female version of a Savestyle advert. Hate it.

However, low budget shows with wobbly sets were some of the best ever! Just look at Blake's 7, one of my faves even with the drunken Liberator (and later, the drunken Scorpio) :D Seriously I saw a scene, near the beginning, where Jenna touched a control panel and the *entire* set wobbled by several inches. Why they didn't cut it, I'll never know. But in terms of storyline, it was awe inspiring especially with its realism (main characters that you care about getting killed off at certain stages, then the whole lot getting wiped out at the end, leaving the bad guys as the winners)

I can see why he quit. I for one had never heard of him until the ads for Dr Who, so he's wise to pull out if he wants to be identified outside of the show and get more acting jobs IMO.

Using the above example, Michael Keating (Vila) is a classic type cast. He's only ever been known as that wimp from B7. It took him the best part of 23 years to finally land a semi-regular part in a TV series again (he's now a recurring vicar in Eastenders, and I still keep expecting him to duck and run behind a bush). Contrast with Gareth Thomas (Blake) who quit after the second series and has had notable regular appearances in London's Burning and that court judge thingy amongst others.

I bet Eccelston will switch to ITV and end up on the rota for their Drama Premieres for a year or so. Everyone who's been a "popular person" in a TV series seems to go onto those next - Robson Green, Sarah Lancashire, James Nesbitt, blah de blah de blah. You know the type, and I think Ecclestone is one of them.

he didn't "want to be typecast"? ,
Well excuse me Dr Ecclestone ,why did you apply in the first place.

I think it might be nice if Billie Piper morped into the DR. Thus boosting their pollitical correctness program by having a female .And Of corse have their love child (male obviously) ,as the assisatant.

Valid point Cappy and not one I hadn't considered. If you take the role of Doctor Who you have no choice but to bear the responsibility and fanatic conventions that come along with the job. He was begging for the role and now hes too good for it.
Blah to you. Bring on Toksvig, I say, the first lesbian midget Doctor with no neck.

Hmm... a female Doctor.....

That would break tradition but I'd love to see it. It'd have to be a bit of a tomboy type I think, someone like a British version of Sigourney Weaver (or however you spell those weird American names) would be good.

sigourney weaver ,may not want to be typecast ,after all those alien films she's been in

Was awesome this week. And next weeks looks scary as fuck.

yes, this week's was still good, and funny, loved Zoe Wanamaker being thin!

Thought I recognised her voice.

I'll admit I didn't see it *that* much in the past, but was it always a sitcom or did it just turn into one now?

It's damn good. But I think it'd actually benefit from either seriousness (blake's 7) or hilarity (red dwarf). Combining the two seems a bit odd.

I quite like the way its been produced . It is serious and slapstick ,at the same time. Very clever.

Watched it this saturday and I have to say the plot line improved immensely on last weeks. Loved the stretched face with Zoe's voice especially when it was revealled the face was a he not a she :D Nice emotional bit based on the doctors background without giving anything away really. Loved the effects of the face splattering everywhere, but it was remarkably simple for him to reverse the transport.

Speaking of transport, my friend who I watched it with last night pointed out that this version of the TARDIS seems to be remarkably more accurate for landing in the right place than those of previous series were something would always go wrong, ie, wrong time/place. It is only two episodes in though, so lets wait and see... how many episodes are there in this series, does anyone know ?

I *think* its 6, but dont quote me.

I *think* its 6, but dont quote me.

ooops, quoted you!


According to the bbc web site it's 13

:haha: I split :))

Thats not so bad then. I missed it last night, on account of looking at pizzas on the internet. Thanks for being arsed to look.

ooops, quoted you!


According to the bbc web site it's 13

A Bakers dozen :haha:
(geddit ..tom baker ,colin baker .....erm)

Minxy , the gun/arm bit is a reference back to the very early '70s stories with the Autons/nestine intelligence. Don't ask me to explain or try to remember further , I am already starting to feel obsessive.As for who is next......woo yay for whoever said Eddie Izzard. But then Ken Dodd would be fine ( if on a a very bad edgy acid trip.........no...no....the diddy men...).

I quite like David Tennant after seeing him in Blackpool and Casanova;


David Tennant has been confirmed as the replacement for Christopher Eccleston in the Doctor Who role.

The news comes after Eccleston's surprise decision to quit the cult show earlier this month over fears of becoming typecast.

Tennant, currently starring in BBC One's Casanova, will become the tenth Doctor in the show's next series. He will join the cast alongside Billie Piper, who is sticking around as the Doc's assistant, Rose Tyler.

"I am delighted, excited and honoured to be the tenth Doctor!" said Tennant. "I grew up loving Doctor Who and it has been a lifelong dream to get my very own TARDIS.

"Russell T Davies is one of the best writers television has ever had, and I'm chuffed to bits to get the opportunity to work with him again. I'm also really looking forward to working with Billie Piper who is so great as Rose.

"Taking over from Chris is a daunting prospect; he has done a fantastic job of reinventing the Doctor for a new generation and is a very tough act to follow."

Russell Davies, executive producer and writer of the show, added: "Christopher Eccelston's wonderful Doctor has reinvented the role, so that it now appeals to the best actors in the land. I'm already writing David's first new adventure on board the TARDIS!

"Regeneration is a huge part of the programme's mythology, and I'm delighted that new, young viewers can now have the complete Doctor Who experience, as they witness their hero change his face!"

Filming on the new 13-episode series begins this summer for transmission early next year.

Haven't read the whole thread, but yes, it sounds at least a little somewhat promising.

One of the problems of the last few series of Dr Who was that the plots were really rushed through, with no convincing attempt to establish atmosphere & characterisation etc.

From what I've heard of the new series, this might be a continuing problem. I hope not, because Dr Who deserves more than that.

In fact it deserves Gordon as the principle writer, script editor & indeed, Gordon in the title role.

Dr Who will never strike that truly eternal & cosmic note, until Gordon Thockit is the true & total Doctor, I meekly suspect.

It kicked ass tonight. Best one of series so far.. can't wait for next week.

Couldn't believe it was a two parter, bah

loved the lady MP from Fylingdale or wherever

Couldn't believe it was a two parter, bah

I agree it was very good but do hate it when some programs randomly thrown in multi part episodes. because of course ill miss the nest one under sods law.

2- parter , ant 'n' dec must be planning somethging on t'other side.

2 parter usually means excellence. Looking forward to it.

2- parter , ant 'n' dec must be planning somethging on t'other side.

It was last in series tonight though wannit.

I recognised the fat woman in the blue suit who was an alien. Where have I seen her beofre?

http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0046183/


I have just seen her in Casanova but you may know her from some other programme.

2- parter , ant 'n' dec must be planning somethging on t'other side.

It was last in series tonight though wannit.


It`s Celebrity Wrestling next week.

Cheers for that. I recognised her from the queens nose.

I recognised the fat woman in the blue suit who was an alien. Where have I seen her beofre?

Do you remember the Cadbury's Caramel adverts with the sexy bunny?

She voiced it!

Wasn't one of the aliens based on Anne Widdecome , or is my imagination taking hold.

Yes, I thought that too :D Glad I wasn't going insane!

I cannot believe I waited til Saturday gone to watch it. Somebody slap me.

http://www.sky.com/showbiz/article/0,,50001-1178717,00.html

The BBC and Dr Who`s producers are now saying they are glad Chris has gone !!

Chris WHO?
Forgotten him already,traiter.

I have to say that this series is fucking awful in almost every respect.As for the farting aliens....puerile and badly handled.I'm English and therefore love fart jokes but they need to have some claim to humour.
RTD is a dreadful hack...I think there is a touch of the Emperors new Clothes about all of his work.

RTD is a dreadful hack...I think there is a touch of the Emperors new Clothes about all of his work.

Well, I liked The Second Coming, but he's all wrong for DW.

You get the impression that no matter how much he wanks on about his admiration for Who he still (and perhaps without realising) sees it as intellectually beneath him - hence the near-Rentaghost silliness etc.

Well, I liked The Second Coming, but he's all wrong for DW.

You get the impression that no matter how much he wanks on about his admiration for Who he still (and perhaps without realising) sees it as intellectually beneath him - hence the near-Rentaghost silliness etc.

didn't see the second coming.Wasn't impressed with Century Falls or Mine All Mine and Casanova shared the same faults as new Who.

I hadn't thought of your comments comababy...interesting theory.

Havent Watched This Series At All, Even Though I used To Be A Big Fan


However I Probably WILL Watch The Next Series Seeing As Who They Cast As The Dr.

Finally The BBC Has Got It Right. Perfect Cheeky, Geeky Look. Fucking Great Actor Too From What Ive Seen (Especially Thought He Pulled It Off Well In Cassanova)

i really fooked up this week ,and missed the episode. s o i really canot comment.
But Ronin ,from what ive seen ,they've got it right.

(i didn't think the farting in last weeks episode ,was that advantageous though,in such large doses .I know there were was an S.B.D annectode ,but i came out thinking ,less is more)

It did seem a bit desparate dropping toilet humour into it. But at least they had a reasonable explanation for it... and hey, everyone likes a bit of potty humour in small doses.

How about this for an episode of Dr Who:

Quote:


Visitors to Hamburg parks are being warned to watch out for exploding toads.

Several thousand toads in the city's parks have so far mysteriously spontaneously exploded, sending entrails and toad body parts over a wide area.

Vets and animal welfare workers said the mystery has decimated the city's toad population as well as the unpleasant problem of leaving toad parts scattered around parks and open spaces.

Eyewitnesses say the toads swell up to three and a half times their normal size before suddenly exploding - sending entrails flying metres into the air.

Nature protection worker Werner Smolnik from Hamburg said over the last four days at least a thousand toads had died in this manner in scenes reminiscent of a science fiction film.

He said: "It is a complete mystery, we have a lot of ideas which we are following up, but at the moment we haven't the faintest idea if any of them are correct.

"It could be an unknown virus, or a fungus that has infected the water or a defence mechanism against aggressive crows which have appeared in the area recently.

"You see the toads crawling along the ground, swelling and getting bigger as they go until they are like little tennis balls, and then they suddenly explode."

Vet Otto Horst added: "I have never seen a thing like it."

"It's a real puzzle," agreed Janne Kloepper from the Hamburg Institute for Hygiene and the Environment, adding: "If this keeps up, there will be no toads left in Hamburg."

Latest one was absolutely, 100%, awesome. I didn't believe that they'd be able to bring the Dalek(s) back with such realism, but they have done! I've never seen such a good continuation of such an old story.

Interestingly, it looks like Mr. Gayanation Street is going to be another semi-permanent assistant - should be good.

I thought that was a good way to grab another one... funny how he turned out to be english as well! I love what they did with the owner of the place. Too funny. Also, I thought the story line went quite well with the reversal of roles, the fear, the effects of the restoring dalek was also pretty cool along with it's ultimate demise.

LATEST EPISODE SPOILER







So he's fucked off already? Very comical though the way he left :D Wonder if he'll be back later on.

It's interesting how they've done this series - it's not one long battle like most of the others, but an exploration of each time period which conveniently ends up in some sort of 'master' running the show and then being defeated. I can't help wondering if there's a much more epic story behind it all.

It's astounded me with how consistently good it's been each week. Yesterdays was fucking fantastic - and next weeks really does look terrifying.

Apart from the Simpsons it really is the only thing i make an appointment to watch ,now.
The ending made me have a giggle ,this week.
(clicks fingers)

Yeah. Quite funny how he was out before he was really in, but it makes me wonder if he'll be going back to utilise him sometime in the future... Doubtful. The alien looked rather familiar for some reason to another creature I've seen but I can't quite remember it. The banter was quite funny between the doctor and the editor :)

Probably. Most of the characters are recurring, it wouldn't surprise me if he (and the others) were part of the Bigger Picture I spoke of.

Was awesome this week. And next weeks looks scary as fuck.
Hey Uno, scariest prospect is not being in Champs league (f*cking looks unlikely now as well)!!

Sorry but the new Quack Who is crap , Piper is well fit but the acting and story lines are terrible, I know it's supposed to be for kids, but even when I was eight I would have thought "what the hell is this?"

For all the hype there not enough of our licence payers money been thrown at it!

Well Madd-up (ill try to answer points in chronilogivcal order) 1. Quack Dr crap Who- he's a splitter ,but i found him alright ,and better than tom peartree,on par with colin truemnn .but not as good as slyvester stallone.
2,Piper is fit ,and can't arguement
3.Wneh you wree 8 ,you cleaned chimneys and didnt nave no TV.
4.TV licence is going toward produceing shit-hot program like this
5. Hype . its 2005 for nobby nuts sake

Its just Dr Who lite.In the old days you felt there was something clever behind it all bit now, esp in the Russell Davies ones , they are just join the dots kids shows.

A problem post ,hmm

He's got a point though.
However ,the reasen it is differrent ,is bicause you are a fully flegded grown up adult now,and can see through the plots .
Which I suppose begs the question is the new Dr.Who aimed at kids ,or adult kids?

A problem post ,hmm

He's got a point though.
However ,the reasen it is differrent ,is bicause you are a fully flegded grown up adult now,and can see through the plots .
Which I suppose begs the question is the new Dr.Who aimed at kids ,or adult kids?

that is partly true Cappy.I still maintain that part of the problem is Riusell Davies simplistic style.he can't seem to fit a plot into the 40 minute slot.Gatiss' Welsh one and the Dalek story were much more satisfactory.
In the old days the scripts were kid friendly and there was very much a kid sensitivity but there was always something deeper.Russell doesn't seem to be able to manage that.

Finally seen latest (Sat 14th), bit of a cliche (Back to the Future anyone?) but well executed and very emotional. Loved it.

Finally seen latest (Sat 14th), bit of a cliche (Back to the Future anyone?) but well executed and very emotional. Loved it.

Nah, I thought it was crap.
Massive rip off from a Steven King story, "The Langoliers" - where a few passengers from a plane accidently jump out of time, find they're the only ones left and quickly work out how to get back into time when the Langoliers turn up to eat everything.

Bah, even Saphire & Steel could handle time paradox concepts better than that!

Haha. True. Loved that show, albeit some of them (I think there was this train station one) dragged on and on and on.

anyone who couldn't predict the ending five minutes in should just give up.

Didnt' see it as I was away, anyone wanna give me a detailed account depicting all the background scenery etc.

wobbly ,but thats what makes it what it is.
wobbly plywood is hard to get,you cant just get it from jewsons.

Don't say I never do anything for ya :D Cappy depicted the background scenery quite nicely so I'll skip that part! I was drunk when I watched it so some of the details might not be 100%


Rose's father was killed in a hit-n-run when she was a baby. He died alone. Flashback to her mother explaining it all to her when she's aged 6 or so. She asks to go back to that time and be with him while he dies. Cue title.

She gets too emotional and doesn't go to him in time before he dies, and so asks to try again (back to the save point? haha)

This is her last chance, and it's not as easy now because they're hiding from their previous instances who are still stood there - Doc warns her that they mustn't see their future selves else it'll cause a paradox (reminds me of that Crime Traveller thing). She bolts in at the last minute - but pushes him out of the way and he survives! The Doc is pissed off by this "stupid ape" trick, convinced that this was her plan all along. He sacks her, intending to leave her in that time and continue his journeys. He didn't notice that their previous instances had seen them and caused a paradox, though (frankly I think this is stupid, because they were stood there watching the body - of course they'll see themselves run up to it!)... the shit begins to hit the fan, and something seems to be after his blood. He returns to the police box which turns out to be... an empty police box! Then he puts 2 and 2 together and runs back.

Skip Rose's deep and meaningful discussions with her father - unimportant 'story depth' stuff. He was off to do something churchy - best man for his mate's wedding or Rose's christening or something, I can't remember. He doesn't know they're related.

She tags along and sees her young mother (sorry, she still looks an old slapper whatever the time period) and.. her baby self. The shit is hitting the fan good and proper now, with dark flying dragon-like creatures swooping around and eating people. The Doc arrives back just in time to stop Rose from touching her younger self, which would cause a big enough paradox to bring about the end of the world. He explains that the creatures are from some other space-time dimension type thing and feed on "damaged time" such as the paradox she was kind enough to create. Creating another paradox in front of them would be certain death. Emphasises that it's all her fault and directs people into the church - the creatures can't get through walls.

Meanwhile the car that hit Mr Tyler has followed them from where he was killed all the way to outside the church. It's in an infinite loop of appearing, swerving and disappearing.

Her father's full of questions - like who she is, why she turned up and why she called him 'dad' when she panicked. Her mum thinks she's another of his bits on the side (he hasn't exactly been an angel), rows ensue, more questions, one piece on information leads to another and they both eventually find out the absolute truth. (IMO this doesn't seem to throw either of them much, apparently daughters from the future must turn up all the time.)

The Doc realises there's a way to undo the mess - he can summon the TARDIS with the key or something like that, and it's all close to being solved. But meanwhile, in another of her silly human emotional moments Rose accepts to hold her baby self - now it *really* hits the fan - the dragon things are now strengthened by the new paradox and can pass through walls. The Doc mentions how she's managed to stuff it up completely, well done, the world's about to end. Then he gets killed.

Whoops.

Now they're buggered!

The end of the world is nigh now as the creatures start to eat everything in sight. Meanwhile the father realises he's been a shit in the past, should've been killed, wasn't there for Rose (cos he was dead, and would've been a crap father anyway) and is basically a waste of space. One thought leads to another and - wait a minute - that car is still going round and round outside. What if he was to throw himself in front of it, shouldn't that undo the paradox?

His one chance to be a true dad and make the ultimate sacrifice for his daughter's future. Of course he goes for it (like he's got anything to lose!) Off he goes - splat. Bye creatures, people pop back again, the Doctor appears again, everything that was said and done is undone and forgotten by everyone (except the Doc and Rose, and possibly the dying Mr Tyler). For a third time he tells her to go to her dying father (one slight change, he was now killed outside the church instead of the original location so they don't have previous instances to deal with). She stays with him until he dies, much to the bemusement of everyone stood outside the church, who have now never met her before again. If that sentence makes any sense. The Doc gives her a warning and accepts her back.

Fast forward to the flashback of mum telling young Rose about dad. This time she says he didn't die alone, there was this young woman who turned up and held his hand. Nobody knew who she was - she wanted to thank her, but she disappeared and was never seen again...

The end.

(Phew! I'm way too enthusiastic about this series.)

So, this episode lasted about 10 minutes then ? ('bout twice the time it took me to read it all through twice :D) Sounded interesting with a few plot flaws, but ultimately that's what the doctor is all about :d

Yep, about 10 minutes of plot and 35 minutes of "family stuff" (e.g. the big discussion where they find out the truth) / Doctor being pissed off / etc :D

I cant believe Rose never saw any of the Back to the Future films. What kind of an upbringing did she have?

I cant believe Rose never saw any of the Back to the Future films. What kind of an upbringing did she have?

:haha:

The new series starts tomorrow in Australia. The ABC here have been repeating every surviving complete story of Dr Who, from William Hartnell onwards, with an episode every weekday except Friday - it's been a very nostalgic journey (we're now coming towards the end of the first Romana stage of the Tom Baker era).

I don't have terribly high expectations for the new series, so might possibly be pleasantly surprised. Quality of acting will be a vital consideration, but the quality of writing - plots, pacing, atmosphere etc. will be just as crucial

What I've heard so far doesn't auger well I'm afraid. The last seasons of Dr Who (most of the McCoy & Colin Baker stories) were burdened with crappy stories that were far too fast, too much incident pushed into too little time with no real attempt to establish atmosphere & characterization, & too many silly in-jokes - it seems this tradition might be continuing.

But I should keep my gob shut until I've seen it.

Yes you should .
I'd say it is not unreasenable to whatch it first ,then comment.

Its not like the conservative party manisfesto , where we can give it loads of greif before it's out there , innit.

I've just seen the first episode of the new series, & here's my verdict:

Well, arguably, it could have been worse. As a tongue-in-cheek suspense/sci-fi type show it was more-or-less watchable in itself, but it wasn't convincingly "Dr Who". Not by a long chalk.

There was (initially) a creditable attempt to establish atmosphere, but the dialogue was too fashionably glib, & the FX & noises were too fashionably overdone. The story itself is a rather cynical rehash of the Nestine stories from the early Pertwee era, very inarticulately resurrected. One for the more moronic fans, which was always an unfortunate likelihood.

Eccleston was tolerable, even though his smile is too fixed & hysterical, his overacting too clinical, & his clothes & accent are horrible. Hopefully he might settle more comfortably into the role.

It's a pity a class-neutral character like the Doctor had to become a victim of British class-consciousness.

I wouldn't mind writing a proper new series of Dr Who myself. Needless to say, it would be much better than this junk :)

Some people will like this travesty of Dr Who. Those who like "strange" noises & colours, & fast-moving, inarticulate plots reduced to the most mundane "weirdo evil vs bland good" formulae, presented by oh-so-ephemeral suburban "street cred" stereotypes (in this case a "hot" checkout chick & a whatever suburban hetero male stereotype Eccleston is supposed to represent), with lots of loud noises & glib crappy jokes.

Which is not to suggest that Dr Who, traditionally, was necessarily always any better. But when it was bad, it at least had the excuse of being unintentionally bad - & that's not something one can say about this latest resurrection.

The old Dr Who was often junk, but punctuated by much genuinely engrossing fantasy theatre - & a few timeless moments.

It's probably expecting too much for a new series to aspire to such heights, without Gordon in charge :)

Don't judge a series from its first episode. Like most others, it wasn't much good. Watch a few more first :)

The other thing is, don't be expecting new story lines here, be expecting a slight rehash of the old ones. However, when you get to the episode with the plunger-faced machine (you know what I mean) then you'll appreciate it. I thought that whilst it didn't seem to be going very far the ending was actually quite something.

I honestly think that this show is the dogs bollocks.
Both of my kids ( Ollie who's 4, and Lucy who's 5 ) are running around being the Dr and Rose, their new television heroes.
I've shown them old Doctor Who ( Tom Baker mainly, my Doctor ), and they have no interest whatsoever.
They try to hum the theme tune, they hide behind the sofa, they do Dalek impressions............etc
A new generation is enjoying the show, kids enjoy the show, I enjoy the show.
If it's not what you want....move on.
But don't attack something that's maintained it's target audience by adjusting, adapting, growing, but remaining true to its source.

Like Gordon, I've just seen the first new Dr Who.

I loved it. I never expected it to be a quantum leap from the show of old, it was designed to be damn good entertainment and it succeeded.

Of all things I was thinking about James Bond. I reckon that The Doctor is a more significant character than Bond (Discuss. 3000 words, due Friday), a better basis for a franchise and much more fully developed and credible as a character. The situations he finds himself in are about as realistic as those in 007 films.

It's kind of a shame that Dr Who is one of those things, like cricket and Spike Milligan, that everyone in the English-speaking world gets except the Yanks.

It's a pity a class-neutral character like the Doctor had to become a victim of British class-consciousness.
Oh come on - where would Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker have been without those fruity Home Counties accents? How could they have exerted all that authority over those sidekicks and Earthling supporting characters unless they knew where they were in relation to the Doctor? A either man would have said himself, "oh, come come". Class-neutral my arse. Poms never do anything class-neutral.

More on this when I've thought about it a bit, and seen some more episodes.

Suggests daidavis:

But don't attack something that's maintained it's target audience by adjusting, adapting, growing, but remaining true to its source.

It isn't remaining true to anything - it's written by someone who's already decided that the original concept was junk, which is why he likes it - he enjoys celebrating what he thinks is junk, in a junky manner.

And there's nothing necessarily wrong with that. Being queer myself, I'm partial to a bit of camp celebration of trash culture.

The problem is that Dr Who, traditionally, was never completely trash. There are themes there, in the original concept, that encapsulate all sorts of creative fantasy potential. Potential that could promise so much more, in the mind of a truly gifted writer, & a cast & production team that really cares.

But I suppose it's all just telly, anyway. Who gives a shit.

The talk is Billie Piper is only going to appear in the first 2 episodes of the new series then she`s leaving.

Argues cor_innit:

Oh come on - where would Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker have been without those fruity Home Counties accents? How could they have exerted all that authority over those sidekicks and Earthling supporting characters unless they knew where they were in relation to the Doctor?

I'd suggest that the "correct" English of the previous Doctors merely served to establish them as approximating professional scientists - such appropriately (& unobtrusively) "middle cleass" mannerisms ensured the whole question of social class could then be ignored, & one could concentrate on the individual, "eccentric" (& extraterrestrial) personality of the Doctror.

Presenting the Doctor as theatrically "working class" (I'm sure Eccleston is capable of doing neutral, "correct" English) doesn't serve any coherent Dr Who purpose at all - it's just all part of the current British class cringe.

i don't think nowadays we see a mild northern accent as a barrier to being a scientist. northerners these days go to school and everything, in fact some of them have never worked in a coal mine

Offers hugo:

i don't think nowadays we see a mild northern accent as a barrier to being a scientist. northerners these days go to school and everything, in fact some of them have never worked in a coal mine

Yes, but they're not fucking Time Lords, are they.

Of course, the Doctor has always been "English". But the neutral, "correct" speech of the earlier Doctors ensured that their "Englishness" could be interpreted as a matter of interplanetary convenience, & basically ignored. The pointedly regional accent of the latest supposed Doctor seems to me to be a gratuitous social class thing, more than anything else.

But I'll admit to being perhaps rather too subjectively pissed off by this first episode. It just falls so far short of the new Dr Who series I've been creating myself.

and 'northern english' is far more regional, on an interplanetary scale, than 'recieved pronunciation'

...suspension of gordon's disbelief has been suspended....

There are English speaking peoples all over the globe who sound similar to the earlier Doctors, & they're not all displaced thespian types like Gordon - & even if they were, that would be acceptable. The Doctor himself has always been an ambiguous & wandering theatrical type (indeed his status as a "scientist" is very much theatrical).

Northern English accents are much more culturally specific, especially in a television context.

Sorta sounds like you're determined to hate it with as much passion as possible :D

Chill out - the more you're looking for faults, the more you'll find (especially if you're looking for plot holes...) - it's not meant to be taken uber-seriously

i get it now, you identified personally with the old doctors, you don't with this one

i get it now, you identified personally with the old doctors, you don't with this one

To some extent, but more importantly, I've created some beautiful stories for the earlier Doctors, & their future regenerations in properly Doctorly form - stories that would be wasted on this current faddish "Doctor" & his inadequate production & direction team.

Still, as Cloudane points out, it's only telly. There are far more important things in life.

Strange episode, the last one. Not sure I entirely liked it but the last 2 episodes are a 2 parter so they were probably just tying loose ends up before the big finale... The trailer looked a bit odd with the doctor on Big Brother and Rose on the Weakest Link (????) but then it went a little bit BRILLIANT when it showed us that the DALEKS ARE BACK AGAIN!!! :shocked:

One other thing...

I can't help wondering if there's a much more epic story behind it all.

You sir, have seen the future. The whole "Bad Wolf" thing (whatever that is!) is SURELY about to bring the whole series together. I am very much looking forward to these last 2 episodes!

I get this feeling too... the last 2, despite looking rather odd (Weakest Link, Big Brother??) are bound to be earth shattering (well, as earth shattering as kids sci-fi gets anyway!)

Looking forward to it. It's going to feel like a long time between 2 weeks from now and Chrimbo.

I keep missing the episodes .2 weeks on the trot now.
I think because Chris and Billie are leaving,my hormones have taken time out ,on the Dr.Who front.
Fancy Mary getting chucked out of Big Brother.

Bring on Toksvig, I say, the first lesbian midget Doctor with no neck.

:haha: :youwin:

Hold on though!, hasn't she already been in it?, could have swore I saw her spit at Billie Piper in episode 2.

Just seen the Dalek one. (By "seen", I mean I've skimmed through a videotape of it. I don't actually watch these new Doctor Whos - the scripts are too crappy, Ecclestone's overacting too embarrassing, & that baboon-faced Cockney companion is too irritating).

A few of the Dalek ideas were good though - such as the rotating mid-section.

I hated the dalek one. I like daleks either a) in full ex-ter-min-ate mode, or b) blown up. Fuck these self-pitying ones ("I-am-alone"). That's it for me. Hopefully the new series will be better.

The new doctor looks a cunt - bit like the doctors of old.

I thought this series was a breath of fresh air, and Ecclestone was excellent.

I stopped watching after three episodes and don't regret it.

This new Doctor looks like a petulant 12-yr old. He was in RTD's casanova wasn't he? Hmm....

I liked Chris, but I think the new doctor is more the style of the doctor who's of old, and thus should be ultimately better. I think the new style of the stories have worked, but not for those looking in a traditional sense.

so, another new Doctor Who

I liked him, not so manic, funny and sexier

Just watched it, tis good :D


But doesnt he look and act just like the short bloke from Top Gear?


Still good tho

Just caught the last half of it.. not bad! And, WOO! K9 is comin back!!!! :) :) :)

Much better than I expected. Can't wait for k-9 :D

New one is even smugger! (alien race is all like "raaaar" and he just goes "I'm busy!") - and a bit of a loon. Gonna be a good one I think...

Loved the bit when he interrupted the evil Sizorlak thingimijiggys. I was rolling around with laughter. I might actually watch this series (the old doctor really annoyed me)

Can't help thinking these new series of Dr Who would be better if they killed off the Doctor.

I cant take the new Dr Wh oseriously after watching him on secret smile.

David Tennant is AWESOME as Doctor Who. he reminds me of Richard Hammond though. I'm really looking forward to the new series now, this was great.

Watched the repeated christmas special tonight. The funny thing was that I was thinking it was either a cup of tea or tunes that the doctor needed... didn't think I'd be right!

Good to see the zany aspects are still there even if it is in a slightly more reserved and less casual way of the previous one.

Roll on Torchwood.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/news/cult/news/drwho/2005/10/17/25634.shtml

They were cleverly introduced via the PM during the christmas special. Of course, I completely forgot whilst watching it about the spin off series.

As did I. I must confess that "This Life" meets "The X-Files" makes the series concept idea of champions.

As long as they aren't trying to demolecularise walls with a potasium filled banana... all is well.

yay - new series starts tonight

7.15 BBC1

I am about to explode with excitement about this, it may be to much for my inner geek to handle. I was a bit unsure about whether I would like David Tennant until I saw the series preview last week and it looks fucking awesome, he may very well turn out to be better than Eccleston.

grr

mr mnem has just rang saying he's leaving work now and going to drag me off to Stafford to drop a motherboard back, which means we'll not get back in time to see it

I'll have to wait til they repeat it tomorrow on BBC3

bugger

Don't do sci-fi. :no:

Unless it's Dr Who! :yes:

Am sooooooooo looking forward to this. David Tennent will be great. Liked him in the christmas episode of Dr Who and have seen him in other things and think he`s lovely.

erm, just saw it on bbc three

was it just me or was it a bit lame?

Just said the same thing to Mrs Ox. She enjoyed it but then she's sci-fi mad and would crawl naked across broken glass to poke matchsticks in David Tenant's turds.

I on the other hand thought the set was a bit of a rehash of the first episode of the first series, the effects weren't very good and the plot was rather weak. The only good thing about it was Billie Piper - I thought she played the whole "possessed" thing quite well.

Loved it, as usual. Really warming to Tennant as the Doctor, no worries whatsoever so far. He seems to do the 'Angry Doctor', "I'm the Doctor, I rule, what you gonna do about it?" thing very well, (perhaps since being in that wife beating drama or whatever it was) as well as the 'sad Doctor' bit that Chris did so well (like when talking to the Face of..Bo?)

I wonder if that's total closure for Cassandra or if we'll see her again. Zoe Wanamaker seems like the type to come back, either as Cassandra during another time or her daughter/mother or something.

The 'zombie' thing was a bit of a cliche... they did it in Ep1 (the mannequins), as well as the zombies in a very early episode and the "are you my mummy" thing later on. But it had its unique sides I guess.

Like last time, a slightly weak start but as emotional as ever and I'm sure it'll get more involved soon.

well call me what you will but I loathed it, and I love Tennant, who plays mad people so easily I think he must be.

I loathed it because there was

too much green
too many trapped/spotty/cat people
too much hysteria
too many nun like people

and to be honest, I really did think it was too heavy for a tea time. Should be post watershed - the child in my room at the time was terrified, but transfixed. Make the bad people go away he kept shouting whilst clinging to his mum. Still, he's almost 3 yrs old, but just shows the impact on kids, and old people like me.

I think Dr Who has become the biggest load of old bollox, and should have been left alone in the vaults and the old ones reshown to a new audience.

I fully expect it to diminish to the point where Ross Kemp and Sarah Lancashire are the only people left willing to do it.

the child in my room at the time was terrified, but transfixed. Make the bad people go away he kept shouting whilst clinging to his mum.


Good. Thats the point.

I was lucky enough to be traumatised as a small child on a weekly basis in the 80s, I used to do a backwards handstand on our sofa and watched most of the show upside down.

It should not be post watershed, it is aimed at kids, they know that whatever happens the Doctor will save the day and the bad people will get their comeuppance.

You want real violence? Then read some children's stories form ye olden days.


also, This new episode was not the best ever, but then nor was the start of seres 1 - they had to sort out a lot character wise, which tends to get in the way of plot. They compensated magnificently with the CGI though.


edit: I should probably warn you that slagging off Doctor Who in an uninformed and badly constructed manor is probably the only thing that will get me so pissed off with you that I end up in flambe. It was very very difficult for me not to go mental with this post tbh.

PS: Are you a Foreigner MPF?

edit: I should probably warn you that slagging off Doctor Who in an uninformed and badly constructed manor is probably the only thing that will get me so pissed off with you that I end up in flambe. It was very very difficult for me not to go mental with this post tbh.

PS: Are you a Foreigner MPF?


blimey do I need permission to express a differing opinion about Dr Who in here these days?

And NO I AM NOT A FOREIGNER - I am pure bred Yarkshire lass - if you dont count the one eighth Fifeness and one eighth Wiganish.

I just hate all these over effects, bright lurid green, empty warehouse, lots of traps.

I love Dr Who dont get me wrong, but it really should have been left where it was in the time warp black and white of the past, where it was excellent.

And as for scariness, I was behind the sofa when those daleks came on, and I still dont like any electronic voice thing - like stephen hawkings, and cher.

BTW FP - its Seans 47th birthday today - be sweeter - if only in His Hallowed Name.

NO I AM NOT A FOREIGNER - I am pure bred Yarkshire lass - if you dont count the one eighth Fifeness and one eighth Wiganish.

I don't believe you, only a foreigner would not like The new series of Doctor Who

I love Dr Who dont get me wrong

Bollocks

blimey do I need permission to express a differing opinion about Dr Who in here these days?

Yes now fuck off and go watch garderners world and keep your half baked opinions about sci-fi to yourself

ooooh someone's struck a nerve


was going to make some pedantic comment about badly constructed manors

but I don't think I'll bother

I thought it was pretty good.

I think arrogance and elitism about sci-fi however is lame.

:fact:

I think arrogance and elitism about sci-fi however is lame.



:haha:

pot vs the kettle me thinks

Yes I will admit I take sci-fi a bit too seriously, but no more seriously than some people take music or computers. I doubt people would like it if someone started slagging off modern computers in a very badly thought out manner and started comparing them to typewriters.

:haha:

pot vs the kettle me thinks


Please don't quote me out of context. Thanks.

Yeah, new 'un was pretty good - seems like a natural progression/whatever from the last series.

In the first episode on Saturday why did David Tennant speak with a Scottish accent for the first couple of minutes and then switch to an English accent thereafter?

...

In the first episode on Saturday why did David Tennant speak with a Scottish accent for the first couple of minutes and then switch to an English accent thereafter?


All planets have a Scotland...

... oh wait.

Cos he's a newbie?

oooh tonight's was better

funny, scary, treasonous, it had it all

(hope Princess Anne has a sense of humour)

Excellent episode. Pauline Collins took the part off well. I thought the special effects were great; better than the effort in whatever of the Harry Potter films had the werewolf! Looking forward to next weeks with Anthony Head.

Aye, twas good.

Haven't seen it yet, but there is something remarkably desperate in the way the BBC has been hyping/name-dropping the show at any opportunity in their schedules.

It's as if they can't quite believe they've made a hit. Get over it, eh.

Well I thought this series was fan-fucking-tastic. Really really good. Excellent script writing. I nearly cried at the ending. :(

I was a bit dubious about him at first, but I think David Tennant makes a better Doctor than Christopher Eccleston did.

they tidied it all up nicely I guess

Just watched it....can't type....too good.....the cyberman meeting Dalek bit.....Geek heaven......http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/bevelheadgrl/thud.gif

Grown man ...still crying....so...perfect...so.....SHITE.....Catherin e FUCKING Tate.....NOOOOOOO.......

worst.monster.ever. (except perhaps peter kay or that doodle in the wardrobe)

What a brilliant ending. Really loved this series and David Tennent makes a good doctor. The only bad thing about it all was that Rose was the one saving the day in a lot of them and the storyline seemed to revolve more round her than the doctor.

Article on his new assistant
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5146666.stm


Catherine Tate to guest star in christmas specical
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5161894.stm

liked the eastenders bit in the army of ghosts episode
"git aat uh moi paab!"

:D

The only spirits im serving are Vodka, Gin and Whiskey!

(or something like that)

"so when did this all start?"

"well, peggy heard a noise in the cellar...."

:haha:

:haha:

Was funneh

Derek Acorah: I guess no one needs me any more.

Peggy Mitchell was :haha:

Well I thought this series was fan-fucking-tastic. Really really good. Excellent script writing. I nearly cried at the ending. :(

I was a bit dubious about him at first, but I think David Tennant makes a better Doctor than Christopher Eccleston did.

I did cry at the ending, buckets. But I am a sad wuss. Can also confirm this is only the second ever doctor who episode I have ever seen.

Tenant's easier on the eye too, to me anyway.

I have Casanova on pause while I am typing this :fact:

Meant to do this other day and forgot.. For anyone intrested in David Tennant, he is taking part in the new series of the BBC'S Who do you think you are, to be shown later this year. :)

anyone still interested in the old Dr Who, there is a dramatisation of one of the series that Douglass Adams wrote called Sharda on BBC 7 this weekend- Sunday at 6pm

Written by Douglas Adams in 1979, the original television version of Shada was halted by industrial action - and sadly production never resumed. For many years the story remained unmade - until an all-star cast headed by Paul McGann assembled before the microphones.

The Doctor and his assistant Romana have unfinished business in Cambridge with the elderly Professor Chronotis. However, the Doctor isn't the only visitor to the city, as lurking somewhere is the sinister alien Skafra! Shada also starrs Lalla Ward, John Leeson. James Fox, Andrew Sachs, Sean Biggerstaff, Melvyn Hayes and Hannah Gordon. Don't miss it!

I thought these were awesome

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3272/doctorwhodayfrontuh4.gif
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3168/tscjellybabyforumban2005abcwl4.jpg

The only thing is though, why was she upset ? Surely she'd seen all this when she'd soaked up the Tardis in her head.

I cried. I thought it was an ending that fitted both series with Billie in them.
It was good to see the doctor was at least emotional enough to go to some risk to have one final moment with her though.

Grown man ...still crying....so...perfect...so.....SHITE.....Catherin e FUCKING Tate.....NOOOOOOO... :stupid:

...now I am bovvered!!! Why oh why has this Vicki Pollard wannabe showed up to besmirch an otherwise cracking series???

Finally caught up with this after having it on DVR for a while.

Yes I cried, such a sad ending! The lonely traveller who simply doesn't get to say those 3 little words :( And as the narration proves, she's left heartbroken and feels like she's died, poor girl.

Actually the whole series was pretty sad, the Doctor constantly being reminded that he's all alone, failing to save the princess (girl in the fireplace), just an example of many. He wins in the end, but loses a lot in the process. I guess the Doctor is getting old!

Seems odd that next year (or Christmas) he'll just pick up the pieces and move on after Rose, he's been through a lot of assistants but did he ever love one quite like her... and if so, does she know that he'll just shrug her off and move on!

At least they also wrote out the family :D

I'm kind of hoping they change things a bit next series. We've done the falling in love and ultimately losing each other, we've done the family involvement, we've done England and Wales (to death) and the return of old enemies for the old fans (ditto). We've had the "base things on the writer" theme (lots of Welsh people being involved, casting his friend from that gay series as a rebel leader etc). Let's have something new... oh and do away with the pop culture, it'll be naff in 30 years time when we're watching it on UK TV Gold 7 and hearing about Chavs and iPods.

I reacted exactly the same about Billie Piper a couple of years back as a lot of people are reacting about Catherine Tate: "oh no, not that bimbo, what are they thinking?" - this time around, I have faith. She'll be good :D I hope, as it appears, she'll be the slightly rough and angry type who challenges him rather than just a clone of Rose for the him to fall in love with.

Sad fan mode is now on:

Catherine Tate will be appearing in the christmas special only this girl is the new full time assistant (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5146666.stm)

/sad fan mode off

Aw, I heard Catherine Tate was the full timer. Bummer, I was getting used to that idea...

Still, they have to do the mixed ethnicity thing ;) Wonder what she'll be like.

*shudders* Oh god I hope she dies very very early into the episode, but then I hated the peter kay guest "comic" episode. Rumours are that Ricky Gerveis will be writing an episode next season now that the Stephen Fry one has fallen through. I hope to fucking god this falls through and Fry gets back on board.

Ricky Gervais... *yawn* - I hope so too.

The only funny thing about Ricky Gervais is Karl Pilkington.

I thought Peter Kay was pretty good, but I'm not so sure about the whole "alien with a Yorkshire accent" thing. Sure all planets have a North and all that but...

Ricky Gervais... *yawn* - I hope so too.

The only funny thing about Ricky Gervais is Karl Pilkington.
:stupid:

Think I may have to switch over to Torchwood that particular week.

Speaking of which;
What does everyone think re this post-watershed spin off ?

The Dr Who fans (some bordering on the obsessive) I've spoken to fall into 2 general categories regarding this:

Those who'd rather stick red hot pins in their eyes rather than watch it, for various (& unmercifully long-winded) reasons.

Those who are prepared to give it a chance (myself included) and think it's worth a watch - for the first few episodes anyway.

Eloas do you post on OG per-chance?

I for one am prepared to give it a shot. I have has a look at all the hype stuff about it and it does have potential. After watching The Second Coming I am willing to give anything more "adult" RTD makes a chance.

I'm interested now. What have Dr Who fans got against Torchwood, then?

Oh god. "It's not cannon" - It doesn't fit in with any of the pre-new series episodes. "Why did Major sands not mention them?" "surely the other doctors would have come across them" "nit-pick whine bitch" Basically a lot of old fans hate the fact that it has been revived without Tom Baker as the Doctor and that the 1970s are over.#

Latest stuff about Who from the beeb - contains mild spoilers about the tardis
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/5222610.stm

I'll be giving Torchwood a go. I'm not into all that nitpicking, it's just a fun series and not meant to be serious.

Although I'm kind of hoping RTD will use Torchwood as his "Welsh and proud" outlet rather than Doctor Who for a change.

Some Dr Who fans can be so fucking anal. It's not meant to be a documentary, is it?

Eloas do you post on OG per-chance?

Now and again.

Mostly it's when I'm feeling a bit evil & want to wind up the "purists."
Try it sometime, it's just like shooting fish in a barrel :haha:

There are a few decent souls on there though and they're all looking forward to Torchwood as much as I am.

O/dogbomb
The three main bitch fighting threads if anyone is interested or wants to go through the membership process (not sure if they are even accepting new members right now).

http://www.gallifreyone.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2747667#post2747667
http://www.gallifreyone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90452
http://www.gallifreyone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92067

OG is a must for all serious Who geeks btw.

p.s Stephen Moffet (Doctor Who writer) replied to one of my posts! /geek squee

There's yakyak.org (llamasoft) too - they're Doctor Mad over there. At least 10 pages of bickering over Pete Tyler having trans-dimensional psychic powers (knowing what's happening) and being able to snatch Rose from the jaws of death. Some people obviously just wanted to see her get sucked off (fnar fnar)

Any possibility of having this moved over to the TV forum pretty please?

David Tenant is planning to quit Dr. Who after the upcoming series, according to insiders.

The actor has signed a £1 million contract to make a third series of the show, but he will look to pursue a career in Hollywood thereafter! I really liked him as well

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds36967.html

Damn. I wish they'd manage to keep hold of the same actors and actresses once in a while... I do welcome the departure from the Powell Estate etc but a little bit of stability would go a long way. Let's have a doctor or assistant that lasts for more than 2 series sometimes soon?