Ok, I have been mulling over how to word this without sounding like my Dad, but I don't think that I can. Here is what happened.
I was in a McDonalds with Birdy yesterday morn. We were in a "Better" part of town in a nice McDonalds. The people that were in front of us in line were 3 Women and 2 kids (ages 2 and 4, est.). What they ordered was fairly comlicated (such and such with ONLY ketchup, extra sauce on one no sauce on the other) things that would have to be repeted to the woman behind the counter, to get it right and make sure that they were pleased. The woman behind the counter was an Asian lady, who was about 55 or so. These customers took about 5 minutes to finish their order, but it seemed like forever to me. Anyway, we finally get up there to order and it was easy, I understood her clearly and had no problems. Well, the other customers order number was called and one of them looked at the tag and said "NO, I specifically ordered ________ and it is not here!! WHERE is it!?" It was not put on their tag, thus not ordered. Problem was fixed, and the burger was made. As they are walking away, I hear one of the women say "She needs English lessions, she must not have understood me." and they went and sat down. We got our food, and went and sat as far away from them as possible.

Why do people do this? I know I do it all of the time. But I catch myself (most of the time) and try really hard not to think like that. My Dad had a fave saying "I am an equal opportunity racist. I hate everyone equally!" I have come to realise that most White people are very racist, even if they have Black, Asian, Mexican, Polish, ect. Friends. Do you do this? Why do we think like this? Is this only an American thing? What should we do about it?

Nah. That woman just sounds like a cowbag. She should have been grateful that the staff catered for her demands instead of making her take what was on the menu like everybody else.

If they're so fussy about their food, why are they eating McDonalds? And slowing down the fast food service at the same time.

The woman in question was acting like a complete twunt. What the hell was she expecting?

A good grasp of the English language should be a requirement in any role like that. Whilst you do see a few asians etc with poor English skills, you see quite a few White English people with poor English skills as well (innit) so I'm not sure it's necessarily a race thing anyway.

I see your point though, it's an instinct somewhere that in the back of your mind to assume the worst from someone who's "different" from yourself. What makes us sociable is the ability to *keep* those thoughts at the back of your mind where they belong - but nobody should ever condemn you for thinking something :)

We were in a "Better" part of town in a nice McDonalds.

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I AM SMOKIN' A FAAAG!

Ok, I have been mulling over how to word this without sounding like my Dad, but I don't think that I can. Here is what happened.
I was in a McDonalds ............

No need to read any further, anything that happens after this is just self inflicted :P

hopefully they got some other "sauce" in their burgers as well. as much as i hate mcdonalds as a company i would never be shitty to their employees as they have to work their butts off, and me paying a couple of dollars/pounds for food would never justify being nasty to them.

If I had a 2 and 4 year old I would be socially retarded too.

As a former Mcemployee (ages and ages ago, before yesteryore was even invented) and occasional Mccustomer , I do resent the implication that you have to be stupid to either work there or eat there. As an occasional treat it is no more stupid than having a kebab or a chippy meal. Eating it every day is stupid. More than once a week, is prolly fairly stupid, but earning a living by working there, or occasionally eating there through choice is not.

I went to work there because I saw they had vacancies, I was 16, I needed part time work and the pay was marginally better than I was getting in a local newsagents. There was a huge mix of people working there, but for the most part, only the managers and trainers get full time work. They usually only have a few full time "lackey" vacancies and the rest of the time was filled up with part timers like myself who did the weekends and heavier traffic periods.

They were not the worlds greatest employer at the time, there was a lot of behind the scenes managerial corruption but you did get a good mix of people there. From university graduates, to struggling writers / artists supplementing their income to school leavers with few qualifications, to school leavers with lots of qualifications, to people who are retired and need a bit of part time work to keep their hand in.

As a mcdonalds employee, you are subject to a certain stigma. That said, my local mcdonalds is EXCELLENT at pretending to subscribe to that stigma by never actually getting an order 100% correct. There is no reason for them to get it wrong, the tills are digital and programmable and each till key can be programmed to do something, including printing off special orders, such as plain burgers, or just onions, or whatever is your desire. Human error will play a part in anything, but I have yet to see such consistent human error in another retail / food service environment.

What is annoying, is that when it occurs, no attempt at recourse seems to be made any more. When we got an order wrong, or it was horribly late coming because it had accidentally been missed, we would always offer compensation, whether that be a couple of free drinks or desserts or whatever, just to make sure the customer knew we didnt mean to keep them waiting. The point of Mcdonalds after all, is the speed with which they are supposed to serve you. It would be called slow food if it was designed to take a while to prepare. I waited twenty minutes once in the Mcdonalds in Aintree in Liverpool, and they were hugely apologetic, gave me my money back AND the food as well.

That sort of thing never seems to happen any more. I guess they cant afford to lose it from their profit margin. You are lucky to even get recognition that they screwed up, let alone an apology.

Theres no need to be abusive, but if you are requesting fast food, and when you get it its neither fast nor the food you asked for, you do have a right to have that rectified. It would seem in this case, it was easily rectified and the woman was going too far. But what you said was nowhere near as bad as I have seen customers being abusive. I have known staff be attacked by customers, (even to the point where one jumped the counter and physically attacked two managers) and you really dont want to be in there last thing on a friday or saturday night, because patience can wear thin when theres a kebab shop close by that you could have gone to and got served more quickly.

I see nothing wrong with eating at mcdonallds. i do. They serve a cheap, edable, filling fare that also happens to be fast. this is why i cringe when i see 2 elderly people order 2 cheeseburgers and a FUCKING WATER and call it dinner. But then again, without the horrible service these seniors wouldnt be able to feed themselfs on 2 dollars and 15 cents.

I see nothing wrong with eating at mcdonallds.
Its full of shit, unhealthy and basically crap.
Have you not seen supersize me?
If you read the Calorie counter for mc donalds a breakfast meal is almost your entire RDA.

They sugar glazed the carrot sticks ffs.

Its full of shit, unhealthy and basically crap.
Have you not seen supersize me?
If you read the Calorie counter for mc donalds a breakfast meal is almost your entire RDA.

They sugar glazed the carrot sticks ffs.

Didnt "supersize me" detail what happened to a man who ate that menu and nothing else for an entire month though?

If you eat anything completely to the exclusion of anything else, it will be unhealthy. If I ate nothing but variations on the theme "cake" it would be unhealthy. Its about balance and moderation. Fair enough if you dont like the taste, or you like to eat wholesome unprocessed food all the time, but as an occasional treat or fast fix, wheres the harm?

They are at least trying to offer some healthy alternatives these days because their position in the market was failing to meet the consumers needs to eat more healthily.

This however, is somewhat offtopic to the original question posed in the thread, which was more about passive racism, and lack of respect to other human beings, than it is about trxies particular choice du jour of eating establishment. Why do we all insist on jumping on the minor points rather than addressing whats actually being asked here?

I am one of the people that are VERY happy that older folks are working at the McD's. My Grandmother worked at one until about 1 year before she passed away. And she did not die from eating their food, Edna. When older folks work, that means that they are taking Less from socila welfare programs and keeping that money in MY pocket.

On the topic of people being nasty to fast food employees, We are at McD's yesterday (one close to our house, and we all shared a meal). It was Chicken McNuggets. We eat Sweet and Sour sauce. Our meal was placed on the counter and a young (17ish) black fellow called my number. I walked up to get it, I said "Can I have 4 Sweet and Sour Sauces and a good amount of ketchup, please?" To that he tosses 2 BBQ Sauces at me and walks away. I say "Excuse me. I would like 4 Sweet and Sour Sauces and a good amount of Ketchup, Please." and I handed him back the BBQ sauce. He came back, handed me the 4 S&S sauces and hands me about 4 Ketchups. At that point I don't want to push my luck and take what I got and walked away. All the while, this fellow is laughing and smiling with one of his coworkers at the counter, a Black woman in her 20ies. It is the blantant ignoring of customers that annoys the piss out of me. I have never worked in Fast Food, nor do I ever plan on it (a vow that I made to myself many years ago). But I have worked in Retail, and shit like that can get you fired.

Whoo, hellooo.

Werent you just talking about passive racism?

But then you pointed out the skin colour of the employee next to the guy who was giving you trouble, who had nothing to do with it, other than be having a laugh with the employee in question?

Isnt that a bit passively racist? What has it to do with your story?

(oh, and for what its worth, advocating that retired people can work harder so that you dont have to isnt going to be the popular opinion of the day...) I know Catch works and that he brings home an income, but comments like that give the impression that you rely on welfare and doesnt paint a proper picture of the situation.

Believe you me, working in Mcdonalds, you need to have a laugh to get through your day, or you might die.

I don't like to be rude to anyone who's serving food - apart from not liking to be rude to people in general, I've seen so many "this customer wasn't very nice so I deposited an extra ingredient" stories...

somone once said something about peoples discriminating behaviour merely being a collection of prejudices you had picked up by the time you were 18. rational or not i believe everyone has them... im not scared to admitt that i regularly have racists thoughts (strangely about everyone including white people) on a regular basis. however i have reason and rational thought to over ride them.

i think its kind of instinctual to have them... fear of 'others' or whatever. but i also believe that those people who cannot or will not kee their opinions to themselves or, even better, ignore them are idiots.

With mcDonalds , i'm like, on the side.
I Just repair the buildings when customers trash them.
Its 6 of one and half a dozen of the other
But i usually tend to think the customers are always twats.

I'd have to say that everyone is either racist or biased to some "type" that is different than you. I however, am racist againt border brothers for some reason. My dad was one, so i guess that makes me half wet-back.

I don't know why, i just think they make a mockery of themselfs. People who break the rules in order to work, dont educate themselfs or their children, have a deep distrust of everyone, including but not limited to: banks, police, the local cashier at the grocery store, and their children. However they believe in everything the poloticos and their church says.

sorry, i shouldnt feel this way.


but, being a Mexican my stance would be much more accepted than if i were a wealthy white man.

I think here in the US referring to someone as "a black guy" or "a black girl" without any specific relevance is not much of a racist thing, but more social habituality. Race is such a huge issue there it is generally accepted that you refer to black people as black people without any specific reason to.

I'm racist towards the Cornish, skin colour doesn't come into it. If you're from cornwall i will probably take the piss more than once.

(But then that's cos i have family down there and it's more of a jelousy thing cos it's where i want to live)

With regards to fast food, I gave up on Mcdonalds a long time ago, I hate cheese (To be precise, I hate any food that can be rolled into a ball and bounced, McDonalds cheese does this.)
And no matter where i go when i order a breakfast at McDonalds, sos + egg muffin with No Cheese. 9.5/10 they still put in the cheese.

I've tried practically yelling the no cheese, asking politely, sounding threatening and even once saying I was allergic to the damn stuff and still i had to go back and ask them to redo the order.

I'm not saying McD's workers are stupid but i do think they need to work on listening skills in some cases.

Its not an a'la carte . Sos & eggs come with cheese , if you want to be fussy, then you must expect delays, in comprension.
Do you tell them to leave the gherkins off too.
Don't confuse them ,theyre only on the minimum wage.Even the white ones.

But in the origional post I had made, I pointed out that the woman behind the counter was Asian. This is the point of the thread, why are we like this? I pointed out the fact that the young fellow is Black, yes, that may be thought of as outwardly racist, but I did not see this Fellow act like this to anyother customer. That is what made me upset in the first place.

And as for the fact me implying that I am on social welfare programs, I asked Catch how that was even considered. He said it sounded like by keeping Seniors working and off of said programs and keeping more money in my pocket. I was refering to the TAXES imposed b my unforgiving Goverment officals, to pay for said programs. I however, cannot even apply for these programs, because Catch makes too much money. At the end of the tax year, we do get some money back, but it is not a lot, not enough to keep my family fed or clothed for the year, but hey, we make too much to get any help.

I totally agree with Kormiic, we point out that other people are different than us FOR NOT REASON AT ALL!!! It is just something that we do in our society, I have no clue why. Black people do it to whites, Mexicans do it to Asians, ect. I don't like a lot of White people either. They act "Too good". I hate that. We are even "racist" if you want to call it that, against people of lower or higher classes than us as well. How do you treat beggers on the street? Hookers? Junkies? How about Doctors and Lawyers? They make Less/More money than we do. Would you treat them any different than say, your cousin? I know I do. I am admitting that I am a Racist, if only in a Passive way. And look, I married a Self-proclaimed Wet-Back. My kids are wet-back. Yea, I am so racist.

***BTW, this is trxie, not Catch.

like i said... everyone is racist. its nature. its whether or not you accept it and act on it that makes you 'racist' in the true sense of the word.

i have friends from damn near everywhere. i make fun of them for their races and they do the same to me. people are different... i just care about the individual - doesnt matter where the fuck your from or what colour you are. if youre nice youre nice and if youre not youre not.

I am a Mexican with Black family married to a White woman who says I have Yellow fever.

Here's another thought. Some forms of "racism" are seen as acceptable, for example taking the piss out of the Welsh. Others are half way (acceptable to some, offensive to others) such as hating the French.

I wonder at what point it turns from humour / accepted behaviour into racism... and vice versa... I think in part it's that some (e.g. the Welsh) are actually considered friends and so we take it as acceptable (even though they themselves sometimes don't)

I pointed out the fact that the young fellow is Black, yes, that may be thought of as outwardly racist, but I did not see this Fellow act like this to anyother customer. That is what made me upset in the first place.
But why in your post did you mention the employees were black? How does that enhance the story unless you are trying to make a point about a certain type of person. I could understand refering to someones colour to differentiate between people you can actually see, but in that post it makes no difference.

Everyone is bound to have racist elements in them as it's human to be prejudice, but that doesn't mean it's okay to not control it.

It bugs me a lot when I see people being rude to employees in fast food outlets, as if they think they are better people than those who work there. I don't have any time for people who think they are automatically better than others just because they think they have some grand status because of their job or upbringing. The woman in the original post is a dick, and would do well to have been very embarrassed of herself afterwards.

I'd have to say that everyone is either racist or biased to some "type" that is different than you. I however, am racist againt border brothers for some reason. My dad was one, so i guess that makes me half wet-back.

I don't know why, i just think they make a mockery of themselfs.

This is one chunk of what you said. It's about skin colour/societal group.

People who break the rules in order to work, dont educate themselfs or their children, have a deep distrust of everyone, including but not limited to: banks, police, the local cashier at the grocery store, and their children. However they believe in everything the poloticos and their church says.
This is another which is about generalised behaviour. Cant you find people like this in all cross sections of society though? In every country in every culture in every religion you will find some people who behave like this. If you simply said "I dont like this behaviour" then it wouldnt be racist, it would just be observation of "some people's behaviour".


sorry, i shouldnt feel this way.


but, being a Mexican my stance would be much more accepted than if i were a wealthy white man.

Isnt that a bit fucked up though? Surely if you hate someone for their skin colour or cultural group you are a racist no matter your own skin colour. Society sucks, Im going to live in a cave.


And Trxie, I did know what you meant, It just seemed from that second post that you were laying yourself open to being a) accused of what you were protesting about in the first place by mentioning the woman who had nothing to do with it other than by sharing a joke, simply by referring to her colour, and b) flamed massively because your comment about welfare was worded in such a way as to sound as though you were gleefully robbing the retired. I know thats not what you meant, and thats why I brought it up, before it turned into another random tirade...

Here's another thought. Some forms of "racism" are seen as acceptable, for example taking the piss out of the Welsh. Others are half way (acceptable to some, offensive to others) such as hating the French.


i dont have a problem taking the piss out of anyone on any basis at all, but what i do have a problem with is real discrimination, which is seen far less against the frogs and the taffys than against ethnic minorities. i guess the reason people feel uncomfortable making jokes out people of different race to them is they fear they would be associated with those who are genuinely racist

As a former Mcemployee (ages and ages ago, before yesteryore was even invented) and occasional Mccustomer , I do resent the implication that you have to be stupid to either work there or eat there.

As a former McEmployee, I find the implication that you have to be stupid to work there fairly accurate.

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:haha::haha:
I have always thought that if you grit your teeth and shuffle chips for a while with half a brain you could be running the joint in a few years.
They top dogs have got to be on a good few grand a year

I was offered a floor manager position, but turned it down for a job as shelf stacker at Tesco. Less abuse and believe it or not, a better wage.

All part-time of course.

:haha:

Alright, its a fair cop. :siren:

Im not denying there werent a few thickies, but mostly it was just average people in the one I worked in. That was a while ago now, though, you wont remember the higher caliber of recruitment standards they had in those days. :badger:

And whats more, I left to go and work in a meringue nest factory. I didnt do more than a day there, that job was even worse, but I just wanted the satisfaction of making the point with the smug managerial gobshites that you didnt just have to stand there and take their crap, you could go elsewhere and do other crap instead.

I used to have a mate of mine who worked at a McD's Not the brightest of bulbs shall we say, he spent an hour cleaning one small square of glass over and over again. (Which could be defined as he didn't want to do anythihng else.)

However he also spent a good 15 minutes trying to sweep up a Big Mac box into the little floor dustpan thing they use, Big mac box MUCH BIGGER. After 15 minutes of practically playing hockey against himself he realised where he was going wrong and picked the damn thing up.

I gotta admit in his case the lack of intelligence (And GCSE's) didn't give him much choice but to work in a McD's, he became a manager in 3 months, quit to work elsewhere and then when he got fired and decided to go back. . . They put him back as a cleaner, saying that to bring him straight in as a manager was unfair to the others, couple of months go by he's a manager again, he quit 2 weeks later.

LOL! A topic about McDonalds turns into a conversation about race?

LOL! It's okay to be racist, everybody is a little racist? That's not what you said the last time this subject cropped up!

LOL! How the tables turn when it's someone 'nice' who points out a skin colour for no reason... it's *okay* now!

Watch this post get deleted.

Treat everybody the way you want to be treated. The McDonalds near my house serves great food. No salt in the chips, no grease falling out of the burger (which is how I used to like it anyway) and a much wider menu. It went through a period of not tasting particularly good but the taste seems to have come back (niggling thought - are they reintroducing bad stuff now that the outcry has gone down?) and although it is served mainly by kids I always give them a smile and say thank you. Never had a cocked up meal yet either, but then I don't order stupidly asking for extra this or leave the gherkin or 4 bbq, 3 sweet, 2 ketchup and a tartare sauce s'il vous plait!

Burger King used to be the deluxe stuff but it's greasy, nasty, vastly overpriced and all the BK's I've been in are dirty, smelly and run by little snot-nosed chavs. Maybe it's time they caught up.

As a friend of a former McEmployee (manageress) I know they're not all stupid, at least not further up the food chain. As for those behind the counter, it can go either way... either they're there because they're too stupid to get a better job or they're there part time to help make ends meet whilst they're at Uni or something similar.

There is no nearby Uni where I work so the nearest Maccys is mostly full of the former category.

I'm very wary about Burger King after seeing some investigation prog on TV where the employees were boasting about not washing their hands after going for a dump.

Ok, I have been mulling over how to word this without sounding like my Dad, but I don't think that I can. Here is what happened.
I was in a McDonalds with Birdy yesterday morn. We were in a "Better" part of town in a nice McDonalds. The people that were in front of us in line were 3 Women and 2 kids (ages 2 and 4, est.). What they ordered was fairly comlicated (such and such with ONLY ketchup, extra sauce on one no sauce on the other) things that would have to be repeted to the woman behind the counter, to get it right and make sure that they were pleased. The woman behind the counter was an Asian lady, who was about 55 or so. These customers took about 5 minutes to finish their order, but it seemed like forever to me. Anyway, we finally get up there to order and it was easy, I understood her clearly and had no problems. Well, the other customers order number was called and one of them looked at the tag and said "NO, I specifically ordered ________ and it is not here!! WHERE is it!?" It was not put on their tag, thus not ordered. Problem was fixed, and the burger was made. As they are walking away, I hear one of the women say "She needs English lessions, she must not have understood me." and they went and sat down. We got our food, and went and sat as far away from them as possible.

Why do people do this? I know I do it all of the time. But I catch myself (most of the time) and try really hard not to think like that. My Dad had a fave saying "I am an equal opportunity racist. I hate everyone equally!" I have come to realise that most White people are very racist, even if they have Black, Asian, Mexican, Polish, ect. Friends. Do you do this? Why do we think like this? Is this only an American thing? What should we do about it?"What they ordered was fairly comlicated (such and such with ONLY ketchup, extra sauce on one no sauce on the other) things that would have to be repeted to the woman behind the counter"

Fairly complicated? Even the thickest of students could cope with that nobrainer. I have every sympathy for these poor women and the sheer frustration at be given the wrong order, probably while a queue of people wait impatiently behind, after giving simple, explicit instructions to some (probably failed) asylum seeker unable to comprehend our wonderful language. For all we know these people's children could have a fatal allergy to tomato sauce. Did you contemplate that? Obviously not. How unsurprising to see the PC liberals coming out taking the side of the 'poor', immigrant worker enduring 'racist hostility'. I suspect their reactions would have been the same had the worker been white. There is no excuse for this kind of incompetence and its a case of the old adage that the customer is always right.

Furthermore people living in our country who can't speak basic English should be rounded up and deported. I would happily sign the deportation order papers tomorrow if I had the chance and wouldn't feel a shred of sympathy either, but then I am the voice of uncompassionate conservatism.

LOL! A topic about McDonalds turns into a conversation about race?

if you look closely you can see where the two are linked. its really quite obvious.

LOL! It's okay to be racist, everybody is a little racist? That's not what you said the last time this subject cropped up!

who is this comment aimed at? everyone in general or someone specific? because i dont see anyone saying racism is ok... jsut that its natural to be so as long as you actively reason against it.

LOL! How the tables turn when it's someone 'nice' who points out a skin colour for no reason... it's *okay* now!

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Never had a cocked up meal yet either, but then I don't order stupidly asking for extra this or leave the gherkin or 4 bbq, 3 sweet, 2 ketchup and a tartare sauce s'il vous plait!

yes, because those are such hard orders to understand.

blah blah blah ranting drivel... after giving simple, explicit instructions to some (probably failed) asylum seeker unable to comprehend our wonderful language. blah blah blah nonsense

i wish i had a picture of someone banging a drum but i dont. so i will have to settle for this one:

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Furthermore people living in our country who can't speak basic English should be rounded up and deported. I would happily sign the deportation order papers tomorrow if I had the chance and wouldn't feel a shred of sympathy either, but then I am the voice of uncompassionate conservatism.

i think everyone should learn english when they get here too. im just not a big enough prick to actually spout the nonsense you do. and im a huge prick.

"She needs English lessions, she must not have understood me."
She needs lessons in Grammar.
And whether racist or not she is a pig ignorant shitbag.
She could also do with some lessons in good dietary practise if she's eating in a MacDonalds.

I was offered a floor manager position, but turned it down for a job as shelf stacker at Tesco. Less abuse and believe it or not, a better wage.

All part-time of course.

That's weird: I did exactly the same thing with Burger King/Sainsbury's. Spooky.

I should point out, too, that I'd only been working at Burger King for two weeks when they suggested 'management induction training'. I thought briefly about reporting them for sexual harrassment...

Trixie - I know that there's not the same customer service ethic here as there is in the US, but really, people who eat at McDonald's generally deserve nothing but the most profound contempt, especially when they're as demanding and rude as these seem to have been.

All the fast food places I've been to in the past year (except for Cook Out) have been staffed almost exclusively with Mexicans. And yes, they generally have problems understanding English and being understood in English.

I had my first McDonalds meal in about 10 years at the Chicago airport a few weeks ago... anyway, I don't know if the girl who took my order was East European with poor Englsh skills or if she just had an enormous speech impediment, but it was near impossible to understand her. After telling her what I wanted, she began speaking; I think she was trying to confirm my order.. after asking her to repeat twice, and not understanding what she was saying, I just gave her five dollars and hoped everything was alright.. the order came out right... but after eating the food, I still fail to understand how McDonalds is so popular in every corner of the world with the Big Mac being their signature 'hamburger'. I hate that most of the world assumes that McDonalds is typical of American cuisine.

You get what you pay for.. i suppose.

I should point out, too, that I'd only been working at Burger King for two weeks when they suggested 'management induction training'. I thought briefly about reporting them for sexual harrassment...


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manta, you are really are fucking dim with your "(probably failed) asylum seeker" crap

you are not "the voice of uncompassionate conservatism" you are the voice of shit-thick reactionary bollocks (and trolling for that matter)

marie, you are right. this is just another example of everyone picking on you

back to the original post, if I had to listen to some drawling american trying to bang on about how exactly they wanted their haute cuisine mcburgers i'd probably get bored halfway through and just give them standard ones, but mcdonalds should try and employ staff with at least basic conversation skills at the tills. many indigenous english people would fail to meet this standard too, innit

The only time I have been in a McDonalds in the last 20 years I managed to totally throw the equilibrium of the poor chap behind the counter by asking for a bacon roll five minutes after the breakfast menu had stopped. I had to repeat the request 3 times, before being told I couldn't have one and would a bacon cheeseburger suffice.
English was not his first language though. He was American and almost certainly here illegally.

What were you thinking? You can't have breakfast foods after 10:15 where I'm from... I did once secure a leftover and cold sausage biscuit from Hardees once at 10:30. I paid regular price, of course.

Furthermore people living in our country who can't speak basic English should be rounded up and deported.

You do realise that this might involve the deportation of about 15% of all school leavers?

*All* school leavers.

Where would you send them?

Madagascar, maybe?

manta, you are really are fucking dim with your "(probably failed) asylum seeker" crap

Well it seems even grammar Nazis can make the simplest of grammatical errors. Now who's the dim one? Heh.

I don't wish to be viewd as a troll (a rather ugly word for somebody as gorgeous in looks as myself), I would rather members see me as the voice of reason and tell me how right I am.

And failed asylum seeker or not, she shouldn't be here in this country serving members of the public.

You do realise that this might involve the deportation of about 15% of all school leavers?

*All* school leavers.

Where would you send them?

A special man-made island at least 20 miles off the coast of Blighty preferably.

:haha::haha::haha:

This thread turned into pure entertainment.

Marie: Booze less. And if you weren't drunk... *sigh*

Hugo: The AntiManta spiel is getting just as tired as Manta's own brand of crypofascism. If Star-Trek taught us anything, it's that Manta and Antimanta don't mix.

I don't wish to be viewd as a troll (a rather ugly word for somebody as gorgeous in looks as myself), I would rather members see me as the voice of reason and tell me how right I am.

Whilst I have no doubt that this is in your wildest dreams...

Manta, change the record. This thread isnt about asylum seekers, wasnt in the first place, and shall not be. Its about latent racism and / or the intelligence level of employees in a specific fast food setting. Something thats getting progressively lost the further down this thread I read.

Stop using any available opportunity to repeat the same tired old comments. You believe you are right, thats fine. We know your views, consider them acknowledged. They dont need repeating again.