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PooperScooper Jun 3, 2006, 19:00 Anyone seen this? I have never been more uncomfortable watching a movie than I have watching this one.
Based on the September 11th hijacking. The plane that crashed in a field after the passangers tried to re-take the cockpit after the Hijackers killed the pilots. The movie alternates between the passangers, the air traffic controllers and the military air defense people, slowly telling the story of United 93.
It was pretty gut renching watching the airtraffic controllers slowly realising that the country was under attack, with each plane loosing contact with them and then going completly off the rader then watching the twin towers getting hit through their office window and on cnn.
But the real heart of this film was in the story of the passangers. We will all already know their story from the news coverage, but as you can imagine most of their story would have been educated guesswork, as we know none of them survived to tell the story. But many managed to phone their relatives and tell them what was going on and that is how the movie peiced together the story. It all seemed pretty accurate to me. And absolutly horrible to watch. This is mostly due to stunning acting and directing. With all the passangers herded to the back of the plane and phoning their relatives, realising the World Trade Centre had just been hit and that they were next on the list, realising that they had to do something, scrambling to find weapons, of any kind and finally charging up to the cockpit.
Scary stuff. So scary that I noticed one girl was crying when she left the cinema.
Mnemosyne Jun 3, 2006, 21:02 It's one of those flims I really ought to see, but just don't think I could face it
a thriller where we all know what happens
but I've not heard a bad review of it
I saw the trailer for it and I was saddened. I think i was saddened more that Hollywood would jump in and make a movie about it with the real intention of making money... I mean the profits from the film aren't going to the victim's families are they ?
PooperScooper Jun 4, 2006, 09:58 It's directed by Paul Greengrass, the same guy who did Bloody Sunday and The Murder of Stephen Lawrence. I can't think of a better directer to do it than this guy.
It's a film that many will not want to see but it is also a film that must be made and would have been made sooner or later. Maybe five years after september 11th is too short a time to make a movie but there have been plenty of documentaries released just months after the event and nobody complains about that. Still, you got choice. Simply don't go see it if you feel you can't handle it. There are just as many that feels that the time is right as there are that feel its too soon.
hugo-a-gogo Jun 4, 2006, 10:07 i haven't seen it, i think they could have livened up the story a bit
maybe get samuel jackson in it and maybe have the terrorists release some deadly snakes
snakes......on a plane.......shit yeah!
Saw the trailer for this when I went to watch the da vinci code. That alone made me feel uncomfortable. I dont think I'd be able to watch the whole thing.
Mnemosyne Jun 4, 2006, 11:56 I believe it was done with the full support of the passenger's families and some of the actual air traffic controllers played themselves
I can watch it and I dont think i'd find it uncomfortable. Maybe a bit emotional but with the nature of the story and the fact that I struggled to contact people I knew in the states at the time, understandable.
I would just rather they donated at least a portion of the profits they are making for others misfortune. It's not something I would goto the cinema to see, unless one of my friends had some burning desire. If it were on TV then possibly.
It's the first film in ages that I will definitely go and see at the cinema. It looks compelling and I'm sure it will be quite thought-provoking.
TEAM EDNA Jun 4, 2006, 14:46 Me and Sals went to see it yesterday, it is very good really hits home just how shit a situation they were in.
Its came across very well and wasnt an "America fuck yeah!" style romp and didnt really boo hoo poor us either.
I would like to think that if I was ever in the same position I would do the same thing and fight back.
Geoff Wode Jun 5, 2006, 15:43 I watched Flight 93 the other week with my girlfriend. I expected to enjoy it (if thats the right word) but found myself getting rather upset.
I think it's too early to make films about 911.
dictatario Jun 9, 2006, 00:50 I just went to see this film tonight. I went by myself because none of my friends wanted to see it; they all thought it would be too upsetting, for one reason or another. I found it really upsetting myself; just imagining how horrific it would be to be in the position of the various passengers on the plane, hijackers included. I imagined being one of the pilots; that moment when the 'Beware cockpit intrusion, two planes hit the World Trade Center' message, then realising it was about to happen to them; with the stewardess screaming and the men shouting. I imagined being the stewardess that they grabbed and put a knife to her throat; she was pleading for her life over and over again-that's a known fact as it's on the cockpit voice recorder. Imagine that! Seeing the pilots killed, you're now the most senior person on the plane because you believe both the pilots are dead (she was the purser), they're about to kill you in the same way with a knife cutting your throat, then hearing one of the hijackers saying to the other to kill you. Horrible. Being one of the terrified passengers, realising that the plane you are on is in the hands of terrorists, one of the pilots dead and the other very seriously injured (it's believed the co-pilot was only 'nearly dead' and was groaning in pain, which is why on the voice recorder one of the hijackers says to another to bring him back to die in the cockpit, they didn't show that bit I don't think but it's one of the few things they DO know). Imagine if your captain was dead, you are the co-pilot, you are dying a slow and agonising death, you're immobilised, and you are watching some brain-washed fanatic fly your plane to god knows where (and not very well!). It's known that there was a very desperate and terrifying struggle to get into the cockpit using the drinks trolley to batter down the door at the end, and the plane was flipping over and it's just horrible knowing the end is nigh like that. And several times during the whole thing, the hijacker at the controls deliberately dived the plane up and down dramatically, to immobilise the passengers, and frightening the shit out of them. And it was horrible watching the hijackers as well. The one piloting the plane was as nervous as hell, sweating buckets (apparently that was the case of most of the hijackers on all the flights in general). The one who was killing the people, you could tell he didn't want to do it, but thought he had to in order to complete his mission. The fact that they gave up and crashed the plane deliberately before the passengers were even in the cockpit just shows how nervous they were. (On the voice recorder the hijacker in the copilot's seat was heard shouting over and over again to the guy in the pilot's seat 'Bring it down, bring it down', meaning the plane). If you REALLY believed 100% that it was your mission for your God to fly a plane into a particular target, surely you would fight to do that till the bitter end? That's the one thing I didn't understand. To me, there was a little humanity left in the hijackers. They weren't evil, just incredibly brainwashed. And I didn't expect to feel any sympathy with them at all. After all, they committed extremely evil and horrific acts. Beyond prior human contemplation amongst anybody other than fanatics. And as for that guy who was in charge in the control center, god, imagine if you were him and you were having to decide to shut down US and Canadian airspace! It had never been done before! It was so drastic. The country would stop. He could instruct the military to get their fighter jets up there pronto. It was all very well to tell them to defend the cities of New York and Washington at all costs, but what if he instructed them to shoot down suspect planes and one that WASN'T hijacked was then shot down? He would have that on his conscience for the rest of his life, and he'd probably never work again! And if he told them NOT to, then a suspected hijacked plane goes and flies into another target? As it was one flew into the Pentagon and killed some millitary personnel, but what if it had hit something else more major like the Capitol or the White House? The Vice President and his family, plus the President's wife and kids, were in the White House at the time, and could have been killed had a plane gone into it, and he could have had THAT on his conscience as well! God I'm getting confused now, between the guy who was in charge in the military command center and the guy in charge at air traffic control, who watched the Twin Towers getting hit before his very eyes, and would have watched them collapsing as well! I think it's fair to say that this film had a huge impact on me. And I couldn't come home reassuring myself 'It was only a film, it wasn't real', because it was based on real events! The film just told the story, piecing together most of what they know and also filling in the bits that are missing, with what most likely happened. Though they missed some well known bits out, such as hour long conversation on the airphone between one of the passengers, Todd Beamer, and the airphone operator. They also didn't show the reaction of the local people in Pennsylvania, who saw the plane roll over and slam into the ground. That would have been pretty horrifying as well. One minute you are a mechanic who's never left rural Pennsylvania, and the nearest you have got to a passenger plane is seeing them looking tiny 30,000 feet in the air, and the next you see one VERY close up, flying VERY low, then turning over and slamming into the ground! You'd probably have nightmares about it for ages.
I thoroughly recommend people see this film as it was very respectfully done, and is based on real events. No attempt was made to sensationalise or dramatise it. And as you can see from the posts on here and the reviews in the papers, it has a real impact on people.
dictatario Jun 18, 2006, 01:08 I've just seen it a second time, as my Arabic friends wanted to see it. It made me more upset than when I watched it the first time. Also, apparently the actors who were playing the hijackers are not native Arabic speakers; my friends insisted the accents they were putting on sounded ridiculous! Still, the rest of it is realistic, and only Arabic native speakers would pick up on the accents anyway. Oh, and one of my friends insisted that the 'real' hijackers were Jewish. I didn't know how to answer that one!
Beatrix Kiddo Jun 23, 2006, 03:28 when i first saw the previews for it over here, i was little upset because it seemed far too soon for hollywood to have turned this tragedy into some sort of commericalized money-making scheme.
however, if it is true that it was made with the support of the victims' families, that may change my opinion and i may actually go see it.
dictatario Jun 24, 2006, 23:24 Yeah, it WAS made with the support of the victims' families, and tremendous effort was made to characterise them all as they were when they were alive, and how they would most likely have been on that plane.
PooperScooper Jun 25, 2006, 00:21 You can argue that this film has come far too soon. But you can also argue that this film has a reason for its existence. How many other films have you seen recently that you could argue so strongly for its existence?
X-Men, maybe?
But seriously, if you feel its not the right time for you then thats ok. But This film has been made for a reason. Only a couple of days ago a bunch of people were arrested for plotting to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago. So its not like its just a big morbid freakshow. It has relavence, and the more relevence it has the more reason to make it. It's a very important movie. It's film making at its finest, at its most passionate. In the age of the blockbuster this is a brave and refreshing film.
dictatario Jul 3, 2006, 02:47 God that's at least the second time an attack on the Sears Tower has been prevented. They wanted to ram three oil tankers into it last time.
New York City Jul 5, 2006, 19:50 Not to change the subject, but someone actually wanted to ram an oil tanker into the Sears Tower? Were they unaware that the building is not floating around in the middle of Lake Michigan?
dictatario Jul 6, 2006, 03:02 No no the 'oil tankers' were lorries full of oil. I think they were going to steal them from somewhere, then take them there, and ram them into the Sears Tower from three different directions. This wasn't long after September 11th that they got caught.
pyriel Jul 17, 2006, 17:10 I've actually got the DVD of this film.
I Won it in a competition from Empire Magazine !
I haven't watched it and to be honest, I probably wont
n.b. It states on the cover that "A royalty per DVD sold goes to the Flight 93 memorial fund", SO I feel i've done my bit for charity :vhappy:
The DVD's a bit cheapy too, I've checked out the extra's and there's no funny outtakes or Gag reel or anything !
(I'm so gonna burn for that !)
dictatario Jul 22, 2006, 03:18 How can there be 'funny' bits on a film about September 11th, or were you taking the piss lol? Are there no actors' interviews or anything like that though? There's usually at least something on a dvd besides the film.
I haven't watched it and to be honest, I probably wont
I'll paypal you a fiver for it if you don't want it to take up shelf space
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