Minx
Oct 23, 2006, 16:32
I thought it might be useful to explore how and why we ended up here.
Now, first and foremost, we cant do medical advice, but I would say that if you make a contribution here that makes you think "Hmm, you know, maybe I do have some sort of deep rooted food issues going on here" then I strongly suggest you go see your GP and ask for a referral to a dietician or a psychotherapist. It wont prevent you taking part here, but I would feel a lot better about you doing so if you were doing it with medical support.
It will also be useful because we can support each other, and be honest about who we are and how we got here (and indeed, pull each other up if we feel like one of us is heading too far into it becoming an obsession.)
Overeating can be very symptomatic and indicative of your state of mind. I know in my case that is definitely true.
I'll go first. I'm not writing this because I want your pity or because I feel sorry for myself, I just want to be as honest as I can with myself, as much as anything.
I, if I am honest, have food issues. I can even tell you where they stem from. As a child, I got very mixed messages about eating and health from a certain parent, who is in themselves a particularly insecure person. One the one hand, I was getting comments like "Look at your stomach, its getting a bit fat" to which the eight year old me replied "Its not fat, its just puppy poo."
On the other hand, the same parent, was coming home with bags loaded with chocolate and sweets, which we would get some of, but they would consume most of in one sitting.
At 15, I lost three grandparents relatively close together. One of them was my grandfather, who I had always enjoyed a particularly close relationship with, he was my most consistent male role model and I loved him dearly, he really understood me, and treated me like a real person, even when I was little. Shortly after he died, the grieving parent came out with this little quality gem "Your grandfather would have wanted you to be thin". At the time, I guess I was about a size 16 and still growing, but around 5ft8 or so at the time.
Well, I was mad as hell. I knew for a fact, that his main concern would have been my happiness, not my weight, but that didnt stop me from putting an association between the two in place that had already started earlier in the scheme of things. So I decided from that point that I would just eat what I wanted, and to hell with the parent and their stupid ill-timed advice.
So I ate. And ate. and ate. and ate some more. The bigger I got, the less I cared about anything. I was, retrospectively, building myself a big old emotional wall of fat to protect myself from taking the risks you usually take in life. I didnt love myself, and I was buggered if I was going to let anyone else love me. The more I put on, the more of an "up-yours" I was giving to that particular parent. I also had similar problems at school, whilst I wasnt by any stretch of the imagination in the range of obesity + at that stage, no lads seemed particularly interested and the only ones that did were only ever doing it for a bet or a joke. It knocks your confidence. I felt (and still feel) ugly and worthless.
The more time passed, the more my esteem slipped. And the more I ate for comfort. Its a vicious circle. I continued to put weight on, have unsuccessful relationships, blame myself for everything that went wrong, I'm my own worst critic. Theres no way you could criticise me worse than I do it to myself.
Then I met Mr Minx, and I knew from very early on that he was something special and that he accepted me for who I was. Indeed, by the time we got married I was a size 26 (I'd like to say I was a size 24 here, but honestly, I wasnt, I got married in a size 24 dress, simply because the woman who ran the bridal shop where I hired my dress from wasnt the sort to go "dont lie" when I said I was a 24, and simply suggested taking the dress out a bit in certain places.)
I weighed 18 1/2 stone when I got married, and despite the fact that it absolutely was the happiest day of my life, it was still plagued by insecurity and feeling a fraud. Brides are supposed to be beautiful, and I didnt feel remotely beautiful. I look back at my wedding pictures now and again, and cant understand why anyone would want to marry me, looking like that. I cant even bring myself to watch the video. And thats not even the biggest I got to.
By a year later, I had put on another 3 stone nearly. I was 21st2 when I went to the gynaecologist for help with getting pregnant. I hadnt got on any scales for ages, so had no idea, and it was a huge slap in the face to realise I was that big. They told me I had poly-cystic ovaries and told me to go away and lose 4 stone. It was like a light went on in my head. I either stayed the way I was, or I never had any more kids. I walked out of the hospital, then walked the 800 yards or so to the Asda that was close by, my head spinning, went into Asda and by some miracle came out of the shop with what vaguely resembled a trolley of healthy eating food.
From that point I was on a diet that went remarkably well, particularly with the support of a number of people on here. I was however, concious of the fact that when I feel low, I want to eat, and if I really get started, I can REALLY eat, so I decided that I would not entirely deny myself, but would treat "special occasions" as treats, and eat whatever the hell I liked then.
It worked very well. I lost 6 stone in about 8 months, went back to the doctors, three months later I was pregnant with a little medical assistance.
Since then, my weight has fluctuated. It went back up with the pregnancy, back down after, to far lower than it had ever been before, partly through breastfeeding and partly through more sensible eating, and I sought out some therapy to help me come to terms with the "past" issues, which was at least, in part, successful.
However, having got pregnant again and coming through this side with weight on again, I know that there is more to this than simply enjoying my food. I feel much more confident when I have some sort of control over what I eat, and I can get preoccupied with counting calories, but at times, my need to rebel against that self control, or on a day where I feel particularly shitty and worthless, I am in danger of over-eating. I am however, awaiting a referral for more therapy, because I dont think I am quite done yet.
My main motive for getting the weight off now, is the wardrobe full of clothes I have that I bought when I was down to 12st10. When I lost all the weight in the first place, I threw out the majority of my "fat" clothes and swore I would never go back there again, but the fact that I still at some level do not really like myself physically propels me to self-sabotage myself. When I do that, I feel guilty, but Im feeling guilty anyway, so what does it matter if I eat some more?
So, this time around, Im monitoring my mood more carefully. I want this to be a lifestyle change, not simply a short term remedy, and to do that I know I need support to maintain a healthy attitude to eating and myself.
I confess, I almost certainly have an eating disorder, and probably self-perception issues, but Im going to get on top of them and Im going to beat them. I'd love one day to be able to have some sort of blessing ceremony where I can dress up again and be proud of how I look, and have photographs that I can look back and see the happiness shining from my face, rather than the sweat of carrying far far too much weight around.
Its going to be a long hard struggle, but I have the support of my GP and I really really want to try and adjust my self perception and improve my esteem.
If you have read this far, thankyou for taking the trouble. If you have any good ideas about ways to improve esteem and self-worth, I would be glad to hear them. Or if, like me, you just want to get it off your chest, (pardon the rubbish pun) then go ahead.
Now, first and foremost, we cant do medical advice, but I would say that if you make a contribution here that makes you think "Hmm, you know, maybe I do have some sort of deep rooted food issues going on here" then I strongly suggest you go see your GP and ask for a referral to a dietician or a psychotherapist. It wont prevent you taking part here, but I would feel a lot better about you doing so if you were doing it with medical support.
It will also be useful because we can support each other, and be honest about who we are and how we got here (and indeed, pull each other up if we feel like one of us is heading too far into it becoming an obsession.)
Overeating can be very symptomatic and indicative of your state of mind. I know in my case that is definitely true.
I'll go first. I'm not writing this because I want your pity or because I feel sorry for myself, I just want to be as honest as I can with myself, as much as anything.
I, if I am honest, have food issues. I can even tell you where they stem from. As a child, I got very mixed messages about eating and health from a certain parent, who is in themselves a particularly insecure person. One the one hand, I was getting comments like "Look at your stomach, its getting a bit fat" to which the eight year old me replied "Its not fat, its just puppy poo."
On the other hand, the same parent, was coming home with bags loaded with chocolate and sweets, which we would get some of, but they would consume most of in one sitting.
At 15, I lost three grandparents relatively close together. One of them was my grandfather, who I had always enjoyed a particularly close relationship with, he was my most consistent male role model and I loved him dearly, he really understood me, and treated me like a real person, even when I was little. Shortly after he died, the grieving parent came out with this little quality gem "Your grandfather would have wanted you to be thin". At the time, I guess I was about a size 16 and still growing, but around 5ft8 or so at the time.
Well, I was mad as hell. I knew for a fact, that his main concern would have been my happiness, not my weight, but that didnt stop me from putting an association between the two in place that had already started earlier in the scheme of things. So I decided from that point that I would just eat what I wanted, and to hell with the parent and their stupid ill-timed advice.
So I ate. And ate. and ate. and ate some more. The bigger I got, the less I cared about anything. I was, retrospectively, building myself a big old emotional wall of fat to protect myself from taking the risks you usually take in life. I didnt love myself, and I was buggered if I was going to let anyone else love me. The more I put on, the more of an "up-yours" I was giving to that particular parent. I also had similar problems at school, whilst I wasnt by any stretch of the imagination in the range of obesity + at that stage, no lads seemed particularly interested and the only ones that did were only ever doing it for a bet or a joke. It knocks your confidence. I felt (and still feel) ugly and worthless.
The more time passed, the more my esteem slipped. And the more I ate for comfort. Its a vicious circle. I continued to put weight on, have unsuccessful relationships, blame myself for everything that went wrong, I'm my own worst critic. Theres no way you could criticise me worse than I do it to myself.
Then I met Mr Minx, and I knew from very early on that he was something special and that he accepted me for who I was. Indeed, by the time we got married I was a size 26 (I'd like to say I was a size 24 here, but honestly, I wasnt, I got married in a size 24 dress, simply because the woman who ran the bridal shop where I hired my dress from wasnt the sort to go "dont lie" when I said I was a 24, and simply suggested taking the dress out a bit in certain places.)
I weighed 18 1/2 stone when I got married, and despite the fact that it absolutely was the happiest day of my life, it was still plagued by insecurity and feeling a fraud. Brides are supposed to be beautiful, and I didnt feel remotely beautiful. I look back at my wedding pictures now and again, and cant understand why anyone would want to marry me, looking like that. I cant even bring myself to watch the video. And thats not even the biggest I got to.
By a year later, I had put on another 3 stone nearly. I was 21st2 when I went to the gynaecologist for help with getting pregnant. I hadnt got on any scales for ages, so had no idea, and it was a huge slap in the face to realise I was that big. They told me I had poly-cystic ovaries and told me to go away and lose 4 stone. It was like a light went on in my head. I either stayed the way I was, or I never had any more kids. I walked out of the hospital, then walked the 800 yards or so to the Asda that was close by, my head spinning, went into Asda and by some miracle came out of the shop with what vaguely resembled a trolley of healthy eating food.
From that point I was on a diet that went remarkably well, particularly with the support of a number of people on here. I was however, concious of the fact that when I feel low, I want to eat, and if I really get started, I can REALLY eat, so I decided that I would not entirely deny myself, but would treat "special occasions" as treats, and eat whatever the hell I liked then.
It worked very well. I lost 6 stone in about 8 months, went back to the doctors, three months later I was pregnant with a little medical assistance.
Since then, my weight has fluctuated. It went back up with the pregnancy, back down after, to far lower than it had ever been before, partly through breastfeeding and partly through more sensible eating, and I sought out some therapy to help me come to terms with the "past" issues, which was at least, in part, successful.
However, having got pregnant again and coming through this side with weight on again, I know that there is more to this than simply enjoying my food. I feel much more confident when I have some sort of control over what I eat, and I can get preoccupied with counting calories, but at times, my need to rebel against that self control, or on a day where I feel particularly shitty and worthless, I am in danger of over-eating. I am however, awaiting a referral for more therapy, because I dont think I am quite done yet.
My main motive for getting the weight off now, is the wardrobe full of clothes I have that I bought when I was down to 12st10. When I lost all the weight in the first place, I threw out the majority of my "fat" clothes and swore I would never go back there again, but the fact that I still at some level do not really like myself physically propels me to self-sabotage myself. When I do that, I feel guilty, but Im feeling guilty anyway, so what does it matter if I eat some more?
So, this time around, Im monitoring my mood more carefully. I want this to be a lifestyle change, not simply a short term remedy, and to do that I know I need support to maintain a healthy attitude to eating and myself.
I confess, I almost certainly have an eating disorder, and probably self-perception issues, but Im going to get on top of them and Im going to beat them. I'd love one day to be able to have some sort of blessing ceremony where I can dress up again and be proud of how I look, and have photographs that I can look back and see the happiness shining from my face, rather than the sweat of carrying far far too much weight around.
Its going to be a long hard struggle, but I have the support of my GP and I really really want to try and adjust my self perception and improve my esteem.
If you have read this far, thankyou for taking the trouble. If you have any good ideas about ways to improve esteem and self-worth, I would be glad to hear them. Or if, like me, you just want to get it off your chest, (pardon the rubbish pun) then go ahead.