Thought it would be good to have a thread where we can post what we've eaten during the day. Might give us some new ideas on different stuff to eat and other members can say if they think anyone's undereating or owt like that.

Today I had:

1 pack of Go Ahead Crispy Slices
A small tub of salad (lettuice, bean salad, grated carrots, beetroot, celery)
1 Banana
1 Coffee
1 Glass of Orange Juice
5 Glasses of Water

Not sure what's for dinner tonight, I think maws cooking. If not it'll be a vegan curry.

I wasn't sure where to put this, but:

I am currently eating a weight watchers beef lasagne from somerfields. I #paid# £2.29 for the privilege of eating seasoned cardboard with a wallpaper paste sauce. It's fucking awful. Do not buy this product!

The meditteranean veggie pasta wasn't bad the other day though.

Ugh.

That is awl.

I read this as 'food, dairy' and now want cheese.

Today I ingested:

nuts&dried fruit for breakfast
frozen burrito thing for lunch
pretzel and cheese things for a snack

I appear to have lost it at lunch.
Dinner will be performed by ?

but will probably involve a salad and meat entree.

An apple, a slice of Nimble toast and an M&S Fairtrade disposable espresso filter coffee thingy for breakfast (they're my new obsession!)- (approx 100 cals)
Some couscous salad for lunch (just a wee spot, this virus is killing my appetite)- (approx 150 cals)
A mini Milky Way, left over from the kid's style halloween 30th birthday party I threw for my friend with a cup of tea with skimmed milk and a sweetener.- (about 60 cals)
Dinner will probably be soup (125ish cals, depending on type) probably with a slice of bread or some crispbreads, or chicken and veg (about 300 cals but I might not be able to cope with that :s). Might be able to manage some pasta (250cals ish).
I will definitely be indulging in a Skinny Cow Mint Choc Chip ice cream on a stick thingy (95 cals) as they are good for the soreness of the throat ;)

That will total approx 530-705cals, not enough.

So yeah, I need more cals in me but I can't face eating. I feel really sick and my throat is raw. Poo.

Today I've had:

Salad for lunch - Grated carrot, peppers, lettuice, bean salad, celery
and that's all so far, might try make a wee healthy treat in a second

Tonight I'm gonna make Vegetable Goulash with Horseradish dumplings (300 calories per serving) Will post the recipe if it's any good :D

I wasn't sure where to put this, but:

I am currently eating a weight watchers beef lasagne from somerfields. I #paid# £2.29 for the privilege of eating seasoned cardboard with a wallpaper paste sauce. It's fucking awful. Do not buy this product!

The meditteranean veggie pasta wasn't bad the other day though.

Ugh.

That is awl.

Weight watchers meals are the absolute worst of all the healthy options style of meal.

Tesco do a great selection - the frozen ones are mostly in a 5 for £4 permanent deal thingy, and their microwave steam type are pretty nice too.

Today (so far)

9:00
1 x cup of tea (Barry's)
1 x Chocolate Orange Digestive (McVities)

12:00 to Present (Lectures begin and all downhill)

1 x Turkish Delight
1 x Caramello
1 x Pack of Rolos

Sitting in bag, one Yorkie, to be eaten on completion and sending of English essay or when I get home with some tea to congratulate self on day completed.

Actual food to be eaten today, 2 x Eggs on Toast.

Total Exercise:

1 (and a bit) x Hour of Capoeira (stopped due to thumbs and wrists)


Overall: Must Try Harder.

Breakfast was one small bag of minstrels
Lunch was chips
Dinner was soup

Not too scary then!

Breakfast : A cup of char , a cigarette , and 2 slice of toast with marmite (mmmn).

Elevenses:A cigarette and a nuttal mintoe

Dinner Time: A prwn cocktail sarnie (X2) , a default bag of crisps (cheese quavers) , a corner yoghurt , and a custard tart. And a napple.

tea time: A chicken (home made,)curry with a nann bread , and 7 glasses of sherry. No rice.

supper: A lump of cathedral city (2 massive pieces for £4 at sainsbury') , and a ryvita.(and several roll ups)

Breakfast:

1 x Tea

Brunch:

1 x Scone
1 x Tea

Afternoonly teatime mealy:

1 x Tea
1 x Crisp sammij (as yet unmade but ready to be dispatched).

No longer posting, as my diet is shocking.

Weight watchers meals are the absolute worst of all the healthy options style of meal.

Tesco do a great selection - the frozen ones are mostly in a 5 for £4 permanent deal thingy, and their microwave steam type are pretty nice too.

:stupid:

Although I get the Saisburys ones, theyre on a long term special offer too. The steam ones are my favourites.

Good god, I thought my diet was bad but YOOOOOOOOO are summink else!



That was aimed at no-one in particular. But by gum do our diets need sorting out.

Now, finally, the money situation seems to be getting sorted out, I can get back to this properly, because I will be able to afford to buy vegetables, and like, real food, rather than existing on peanut butter toast and leaving the rest of the food in the freezer for the kids as I have been.

Remember, you can eat TONNES of fruit and veg without it having much of an impact of your daily calorie intake.

I feel the need for a celebratory weigh in. Back in a tickety...

ham and cheese omelette
lots of bacon
some cold chicken
couple turkey hot dogs
part of a chocolate bar (felt bad about this but i had some left from before i started my diet and couldn't resist; it will be my last chocolate for a while though)

Remember, you can eat TONNES of fruit and veg without it having much of an impact of your daily calorie intake.



Not really! Approx values are as follows:

A medium apple= 50cals
A medium banana= 90cals
A large mandarin/smallish orange= 50 cals
Average pear= 70cals
Bunch of grapes= 100cals
1 slice (!) pineapple= 40cals
One teeny tiny plum= 30cals
1 pomegranate= 100cals

Fruit like melon and even strawberries are much lower, as are veg, though. But you can see that filling up on fruit does not necessarily have little impact on your calorie intake. Fruit juice is even worse, calorie wise!

Ok. Bearing in mind that the recommended daily intake of calories for a woman who isnt trying to lose weight is 2000 calories per day, and that whole list comes to just over a quarter of that, I think my argument carries some weight. You could eat the whole of that list, and still safely have the calories left over to eat nearly twice that amount again in other calorie content, every day, and still lose weight sensibly and safely.

People trying to lose weight on sub 1000 calorie diets are wasting their time. Sure the weight will come off, but the minute you try and adjust your diet back to the 2000 calorie level you will pile weight back on again. Slow and steady wins the race, every time. And besides anything else, think of the benefit to your skin and overall health if you do eat that much fruit every day!!!

Yes, fruit juice is higher, but then its often got a lot of hidden sugar in it. If you want juice, squeeze your own.

I wasn't saying don't eat 5 a day, I was just saying that eating "tonnes" of fruit can pile on the calories. It's about reducing the amount you eat as well as the calories. I always have 5 a day, I have loads of water (and fruit and herbal teas) and I eat a decent balance of fibre, protein and carbs. I also give myself one treat a day (sometimes a glass of wine, sometimes a Milky Way, sometimes a skinny chai latte) and always have 3 meals. I don't see much wrong with that, compared to how I used to be. It's not a diet, it's just the way I eat, and it's not something short term. It's how I intend to approach nutrition for the rest of my life, pretty much.

I drink loads of water, although it is all very craftily disguised as coffee, probably about 15-20 cups per day.

I never drink water on its own and only occasionally have a glass of flavoured water.

I drink loads of water, although it is all very craftily disguised as coffee, probably about 15-20 cups per day.

I never drink water on its own and only occasionally have a glass of flavoured water.

Try fruit tea instead of coffee, it's better for you and really nice. I recommend strawberry and raspberry, spiced apple and camomile, green jasmine and melon and grape.

Im not really a fruit fan myself, I only really eat apples and oranges and strawberries, but I do like my veg.

My point was, that a goodly portion of veg or fruit will end up being a)more beneficial and b) calorifically lower, than the equivalent in carbs or proteins.

Im not trying to be "group leader" here, but I will say if I think someone is dieting dangerously because I dont think its good for your health short or long term to be starving yourself, and some of the daily diets posted thus far have bordered on that.

Everything in moderation is the key. When I said "tonnes" I didnt mean literal tonnes. I just meant that they are more filling and lower in calories than other stuff, and that some of the people on this list could do a lot worse than to add a few extra bits of fruit and veg without it doing any damage to their diet.

I'll choose my words more carefully next time.

Try fruit tea instead of coffee, it's better for you and really nice. I recommend strawberry and raspberry, spiced apple and camomile, green jasmine and melon and grape.

Drinking Tea doesnt reduce your chances of getting type 2 diabetes (http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn3032), nor does it reduce the risk of colorectal cancer (http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/band58/b58-4.html) and as Im not hypertensive or pregnant Im not too worried about the possible increased risks of drinking coffee for those that are.

Tea isnt any better for you than coffee imo.

Drinking Tea doesnt reduce your chances of getting type 2 diabetes (http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn3032), nor does it reduce the risk of colorectal cancer (http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/band58/b58-4.html) and as Im not hypertensive or pregnant Im not too worried about the possible increased risks of drinking coffee for those that are.

Tea isnt any better for you than coffee imo.

Ah, but coffee doesn't count as water intake as it is a diuretic, whereas fruit infusions (not black tea) do.

What a load of balony!

The small amount of diaretic is far outweighed by the vast amount of water contained within a cup of coffee.

Hey, does this count as our first proper food fight?

I feel so warm, and moist...

Well, they're still nice, no matter what you choose to believe, and all I was saying was you could give them a go, no need to become so bloody arsey about it.

Today:

Salad
Vegetable soup
1 yum yum cake (bad I know but they're gonna go off if no one eats them!)

and tonight I'm making a vegan curry with basmati rice. I think I'll put onions, peppers, courgettes and potato in it.

will probably make a fruit salad for after that too.

Alrighty then, lets get some info


POSITIVE COFFEE STATEMENTS

1. Coffee contributes toward your daily fluid intake
Drinks containing caffeine will not result in dehydration if drunk in moderation. Coffee, along with other popular hot and cold drinks, is recognised as an important source of fluid in the diet when consumed in moderation.

In fact, recent research shows that caffeine, at the levels commonly consumed in coffee, is no more a diuretic* than water.

Contrary to popular advice consumers DO NOT need to drink more water to compensate for consuming caffeinated drinks.

So coffee drinkers can continue to enjoy their favourite drink in moderation, without worrying that it will dehydrate them.

*A diuretic is defined as any substance that increases the production of urine - put simply this means anything that makes you want to pass water.

Source: Armstrong et al, International Journal of Sport Nutrition & Exercise Metabolism, Volume 12, 2002


2. Drink coffee and top up your antioxidants
Research shows coffee to contain four times as many antioxidants as tea. Protection against damaging free radicals can be enhanced by intakes of dietary antioxidants and coffee has been shown to be a significant source.

Source: Svilaas A. Journal of Nutrition, Volume 134, 2004

3. When drunk black with no sugar, coffee contains less than one calorie


4. Drink milky coffee to help boost your intake of calcium
The milk in coffee can be an important source of calcium, especially for women. At least two and a half million young people and women in Britain do not consume enough calcium in their diets to maintain healthy bones. Why not have a milky coffee to ensure that you get part of your daily intake of calcium?

For those of you concerned about fat intake, use skimmed milk - calcium is contained in the non-cream portion of milk and so when milk is skimmed, all the calcium remains.

Source: The Dairy Council

5. Drink coffee to help alleviate fatigue when driving
The Department of Transport advises drivers to ‘stop, drink two cups of coffee or a high-caffeinated drink, then take a short nap’ to alleviate driver fatigue. So why not take time out of your journey to enjoy a coffee every once in a while and perk yourself up?

Source: Department of Transport, www.thinkroadsafety.gov.uk/advice/drivertiredness.htm


6. Drink coffee before you exercise to help increase your stamina
Coffee is widely reported to improve the capacity to do work or exercise. It has been shown that caffeine consumption can improve athletic performance in numerous endurance events.



CAFFEINE CONTENT

Based on FSA advice 2001:
Average cup of filter coffee - 75mg caffeine
Average mug of instant coffee - 100mg caffeine
Average cup of brewed coffee - 100mg caffeine
Average cup of tea - 50mg caffeine
Regular cola drink - up to 40mg caffeine
Regular energy drink - up to 80mg caffeine
Plain bar of chocolate - up to 50mg caffeine (caffeine in milk chocolate is about half that of plain chocolate)
Coffee can be taken as part of a healthy balanced diet in moderation. This translates to between three and five cups of coffee daily for most consumers, equal to 400mg caffeine. For women planning a pregnancy and during pregnancy, the amount is 300mg caffeine daily - that translates into 2-3 coffees a day. However, it is important to remember that the amount of coffee recommended to meet these guidelines depends on both the size and strength of each coffee serving as well as the intake of other caffeine containing foods.



FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

Q. Is coffee addictive?
A. No. Coffee drinkers do not require increasing amounts of caffeine over prolonged periods of time (characteristics of addictive substances), and they can moderate or change their consumption with no difficulty. Although many people drink caffeine-containing coffee on a regular basis and coffee drinking may well be a habit, this does not amount to addiction but is simply a part of everyday life.

Q. What do researchers mean when they say that coffee is a 'marker' for a detrimental lifestyle or dietary habit?
A. This means that coffee is simply associated with other lifestyle or dietary habits. For example, people who smoke may also often be coffee drinkers. Coffee is thus a marker for smoking. This can create problems analysing research results, for although it may appear that coffee drinking is a risk factor for a particular disease, it may simply be a marker for another lifestyle or dietary factor which is the real cause. This means that coffee itself is not an actual risk, it is simply associated with the real risk factor.

Q. Can coffee contribute to daily fluid intake?
A. Yes, healthy adults need two to three litres of fluid a day - more if they are physically active or the weather is hot or humid. This is approximately equivalent to daily losses. Drinks, foods and, to a much lesser extent, metabolism, all contribute to meeting fluid requirements. The recommended fluid intake can be achieved through a range of drinks - including moderate coffee consumption, of 4-5 cups per day.

Q. But isn't coffee a diuretic?
A. Diuretics are substances that cause the body to produce more urine. Though coffee contains caffeine, accepted as being a mild diuretic, there is no scientific evidence to back up any advice to avoid it. Indeed, advising people to cut back their regular coffee intake could result in an overall reduction in fluid intake.

Q. Do you have to follow every cup of coffee with a glass of water, as frequently recommended?
A. No, the recommended fluid intake can be achieved through a range of drinks - including moderate coffee consumption, of 4-5 cups per day. The British Nutrition Foundation states that 'you do not need to drink more water to compensate for consuming caffeinated drinks'.

The above facts are based on "moderate consumption of 4-5 cups per day" as opposed to Big Dave's 15-20 cups per day. I was just suggesting a possible alternative because I thought he was looking for different ways to get his water intake, sorry for opening my gob!

Well, they're still nice, no matter what you choose to believe, and all I was saying was you could give them a go, no need to become so bloody arsey about it.
If I came accross as arsey then I appologise.

I have tried several flavoured teas (fruit infusions) and I think theyre all foul. But people who do like/drink them are always the ones who claim that drinking coffee doesnt count as water intake because its also a dieretic.

An interesting article from Snopes (http://www.snopes.com/medical/myths/8glasses.asp) on the subject of water consumption.
...the idea that one must specifically drink water because the diuretic effects of caffeinated drinks such as coffee, tea, and soda actually produce a net loss of fluid appears to be erroneous. The average person retains about half to two-thirds the amount of fluid taken in by consuming these types of beverages, and those who regularly consume caffeinated drinks retain even more


edit: minxy beat me to it again

Well, I didnt like to point out that 15-20 was excessive because it tells you not to in those useful coffee based facts. ;)

I actually really like a lot of fruit teas. Hardly ever have them in, must get some. I have some green tea with lemon in the cupboard. Thats really really horrible.

PS - never apologise for opening your "gob". If we cant be frank and honest with each other in this forum above all others then theres little point in it existing. Sometimes having your "flaws" pointed out can make people a little sensitive, so can we all assume that any percieved criticism is meant with love and one anothers wellbeing in mind?

I have about 40 bazillion fruit teas in :) but I also have a nice box of Columbian roast coffee beside them. I'm not anti coffee, but it gives me the jitters and the runs if I have more than 2 in a day.

Ive been drinking that stuff Daveyboy recommended in flambe ages ago thats name escapes me for coffee at the moment - one of those nescafe ones...

Gah, I hate it when I go blank.

Anyway, its well nice. I too have digestive issues but a coffee and a fag first thing helps to maintain some semblance of regularity ;)

TMI. I know. Im sorry.

..... a coffee and a fag first thing helps to maintain some semblance of regularity ;)


:haha: so Im not the only one then. My first cup it usually followed by a visit to the bathroom so I can read a few more pages of the truely awful DaVinci Code.

Maybe it would be more useful if we each had our own food diaries. We would be better able to monitor what we were eating over a longer period.

Question: How fattening is fruit juice? I luckily don't like fizzy drinks so am not tempted by them, but tend to drink about 3 litres of fruit juice a day, because I don't like water. I try and water it down (when I remember) but I still reckon it has way more sugar than I should be ingesting if I am seriously trying to diet.

Are there any nice alternatives? I have tried flavoured water, but I really don't like the ones here that I've tried, they all taste seriously artificial.

I used to buy a nice diabetic concentrate* in a squeezy bottle back home, but I haven't seen any here (I generally shop at a small sainsbury's, which doesn't have much choice). Is there something worth making a trip to the god-awful, gigantic tesco's up the road?

*not made from real diabetics, mind you.

from this page:
http://www.ivillage.co.uk/print/0,,182615,00.html
it looks like 3 litres of fruit juice is about 1200 calories. I didn't realise fruit juice was so high in calories and tea and coffee was so low. I have a current addiction to coffee and haven't had fresh fruit juice in a while so I'm pretty sure that's not what's made me into a fat fuck.

Blimey - that would add a lot to your calorie total. Robinsons No added sugar fruit squashes are bearable - about 110 calories to a litre bottle which you dilute with water.

ham and cheese omelette
lots of bacon
some cold chicken
couple turkey hot dogs
part of a chocolate bar (felt bad about this but i had some left from before i started my diet and couldn't resist; it will be my last chocolate for a while though)

add to this:

big bowl of tuna salad
most of a granny smith apple
some ham

and i'm sure i'm not even done yet for the day.

Damn. That's a lot. Why am I bothering to eat poxy weightwatchers meals if it's the bloody fruit juice that's the problem???

I need an alternative. What would happen if I drank 3 litres of wine every day?

Your colleagues would probably hate you but Smithkline Beecham would love you

If I came accross as arsey then I appologise.

For me , apology accepted.

Shirley its all about common sense.
I mean ,If I had been born in the 1950's I could well have written a blockbuster called the 'CIGARETTE DIET' , and encouraged everybody to smoke 10 chuffers before they sat down to eat their evening meal. Thus spoiling their appetite to eat such meal.
It still like that , in a sense.
We all look out for a get out clause , but fortunately our brains have little inbuilt functions inside them to tell us the truth.
I'm slightly in denial of what my common sense is telling me , but ultimately I know that a carrot is better than a bag of quavers . And know matter how much I deny this fact it will remain true.
A balenced diet ,with a couple of naughty things thrown in for sheer exscitence sake ,is really the be all and end all.

Ah, but coffee doesn't count as water intake as it is a diuretic, whereas fruit infusions (not black tea) do.

This came up on QI the other day as one of their "common myth" type questions. According to some nutritionist they spoke to from Cambridge university, that's not true. Although Tea, coffee and alcohol are diuretics, you gain more fluid in drinking them than you lose form the diuretic effect. :fact: (according to Stephen Fry)

Well if Stephen Fry said it, it must be true as he is one of my false idols. My apologies. Again.

Praps we should set your status to "Perma-Apologetic" ;)

She says, with a steaming coffee that she had to microwave to get to drinkable temperatures. That'll teach me to make my drink before I feed the little un...